66 points

It’s exactly a DLC that Activision realised they could make people pay £70 for instead of half that. Only a few weeks after MW2 came out it was being floated that there was no COD for 2023, and instead a Ghost focused expansion would come out to fill the void.

Don’t like it don’t buy it but FFS stop with faux shock and horror. COD is of the most aggressively monetised franchises in mainstream gaming, from a company with zero scruples. Facts that have been valid for a decade or more and the regular news cycle attached to it all gets tiring.

Ignore the bugger and maybe they’ll be forced to do better next time when this sell’s poorer (you can hope at least). It’s not like this is some long awaited sequel either, just skip this one. There’s so much more to play this year in particular.

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Leading up to mw2 launch, they were repeatedly saying it was the first 2 year release. They said there would only be a paid dlc at the end of the year. A few weeks into launch they back pedeled and released a statement saying that wasn’t true. Something they could have done before launch, but didn’t, for sales. There are maps in mw3 that have been in the code of mw2 since launch andnwere never released. Fuck them.

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17 points

The achievements on Xbox and PS5 even show up as a DLC of MW2. I wonder how late in the development process did they realize that if they could sell almost the same game every year then they probably could literally sell the same game twice.

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20 points

They realized that in 2012 tbh. I haven’t purchased an MW game since (old) MW2 because I hated their practice of yearly releases while only adding incremental changes.

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9 points

It was a better package deal when Zombies was at its heyday. It was the only reason I got CODs, though I would play multi as well. Now that Zombies is a pile of steaming shit I have no reason to buy COD.

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I think those of us who spend a little more time on forums and such talking about games really over estimate how knowledgeable the average consumer is about these things. Millions of people never, ever question the quality of games they want. They played call of duty for a decade, so they just kinda have an expectation. Same thing when I go out to buy a loaf of bread. Just more expensive lol

So it’s not a faux-shock. For some people this is the first time they bought a game that they had an expectation for and it fell radically short. Why else would they start complaining? They haven’t had a reason to before and they just aren’t generally aware of all of this. If you ask the average call of duty player what they think of Activision, they probably have little to no opinion on them and haven’t even heard of Blizzard. Just like how I don’t have an opinion on every single director, movie studio, etc.

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Agreed. To us, it’s not surprising because we decided to look into it because we’re either big into a series, or we got burned enough in the past. for others? It’s either legit the first time they’ve gotten burned, or the straw that broke the camel’s back and made them at least somewhat critical/wary of the media they consume.

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3 points

Exactly. Much more concise way of putting it lol

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Same thing when I go out to buy a loaf of bread. Just more expensive lol

you mean the bread right? A loaf of bread once a week easily goes beyond one COD game per year

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3 points

I’m referring to a singular purchase and I’m not sure why we need to debate this lol

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1 point

You don’t have to ignore it just don’t pay for shit. Sail the seas if you have to

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3 points

I think this is also what happened with AC: Mirage. Ubi originally had planned it as DLC for Valhalla.

At least they had the decency not to charge $70 for it, but still, it’s MBA businessthink in charge of AAA gaming right now. Unless people stop buying them, nothing changes.

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3 points

At least - and I can’t believe i am defending Ubisoft - they released “hey this dlc, let’s make it bigger and better and into its own game”

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3 points

My thoughts exactly, we live in a world where content creators have to make content on new releases to stay afloat. Never pre-order and VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY

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3 points

I feel like the whole “fans deserve better” was what people said seven releases ago. They just been failing upwards and seeing how badly they can treat players and get away with it. And apparently, it’s a lot!

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Do the fans deserve better? If they mindlessly pre-order and buy every yearly release regardless of quality or reviews… they get what they paid for.

Same with most sports games that are just yearly roster updates at full-price, same with Pokemon, other rushed franchise installments, etc. Obviously, this is mainly the fault of greedy publishers, but the point remains: they couldn’t get away with this if people didn’t jump to buy the newest game installment every year.

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“No one will ever find out! We did this”

“Shit…”

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The devilish act of… Reusing a perfectly workable engine and forgetting a piece of text?

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No it’s clear that it was meant to be a DLC for PS4 but they reworked it into a new game for PS5 so they could make more money. What’s better for them: $30 for a DLC or $70-$100 to rehash it as a separate game?

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9 points

If you bought horse armor back in the day, you directly caused this problem.

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Everybody complaining about a business practice that works, same as the mobile games with their micro transactions.

Just don’t pay full price for the DLC, let them come back to you with a discount later. It was so obvious when they said they were copying all the skins and maps to MWIII

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