Young Americans are piling the blame for their student debt balances on conservatives, according to a poll by Generation Lab provided exclusively to Axios.

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As they should

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Yep. Congress gave the U.S. Secretary of Education the right to do it. But the terrorist party and their illegitimate puppets in SCOTUS decided that, no, a Constitutional law passed by Congress was not valid because… reasons. Can’t let those “libs” ever enact something that is popular, fair, legal, and beneficial…

So yes, everyone should blame SCOTUS and the GOP because they are solely responsible for putting us all in this horrible position.

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I’m borderline on this. At some point Trump (or someone like him) will be back in power.

The law is intended to be used during an emergency for: “waiv[ing] or modify[ing] any statutory or regulatory provision”

If you read that literally, it means that Trump could literally make the provision say absolutely anything during an unrelated emergency. Clearly that isn’t the intent.

I’m all for student loan forgiveness… but I mainly blame congress for this. They wrote a crap ambiguous law which SCOTUS needed to determine the bounds of.

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Low education take… Learn how the constiution works and spending power.

Also… If your beloved party wanted to do this… Why did they not do so when they controlled both house and presidency?

Asking for a friend.

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“Beloved party”

See, that’s one of the many many problems with you fucking idiots. We dont belove our party. Or idolize politicians. Or hang flags or buy wearable merchandise supporting fascists.

We just hate what you represent.

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I like how you assume that I’m a proponent of another right-wing political party solely because I pointed out that a different one is a violent, fascist, criminal, terrorist organization.

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Bullshit, you don’t have any friends.

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Yeah. What asshole is going to blame someone else?

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I blame the Democrats in Congress for not passing a bill to forgive debt through the Senate.

The Biden executive order was blatantly unconstitutional, conservative SCOTUS super majority or not. Congress needs to get off their ass. Once they pass it in the Senate we can blame the House GOP until it lands on Biden’s desk.

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Democrats are not in control of Congress. The House is currently R controlled and they barely have the votes in the Senate due to Sinema and Manchin.

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Do you also blame Santa Claus for not hiding Easter Eggs?

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Please explain how the Secretary of Education using powers explicitly granted by an act passed by Congress is unconstitutional. Or is that just a word you like to use to mean “something I don’t agree with and have been told to hate”?

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Found the asshole.

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Right? It’s one of those headlines where you go “duh…”.

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Now we need to fucking vote.

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Joe biden lobbied to remove last leg of BK protection as senator from DE

Obama reformed student loan into clown shit it is today…

College price gouging are mostly “left” leaning “institutions”

Poorly educated people taking on debt made their choices.

I am sure republicans did their fair share fucking us but wtf is this partisan simping when we are getting tagged teamed?

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Now let’s up pull up the GOP record on these things

Oh wait, that doesn’t matter because you’re just a bunch of assholes

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There is no me in that…

i am the bottom, not left or right…

but sure, since you brought it up, please bring up a few examples of GOP fucking us over on student loans. I am ready to learn.

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Bruh when you have to reach back past 2010 to criticize something Biden did you’ve already lost

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That’s pretty bold take. So if we find out Biden murdered a bunch of people in 2009 its okay because it was before 2010. what kind of logic is that. You are basically saying Joe Biden’s entire Senate career is not his responsibility since he was in the Senate from 1972-2009. Lets have some honest discourse here, bring up the full record of people that are alive its the only honest thing to do.

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As much as republicans are in the lead when it comes to fucking over the citizenry, agreed that we should continue to hold both sides - and their records - accountable

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117 points

ok, so vote the bastards out!

oh wait, you cant - electoral college doesnt care about your votes and the supreme court doesnt either

rofl

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Let me shill for the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which aims to bypass the Electoral College and elect the president by popular vote. It just passed in Minnesota, and is 75% of the way to its goal.

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In Michigan it’s currently in the Upper Legislature committee, so if you’re in the state contact your state senator to support it

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We literally have a Democrat president right now, so how exactly does the electoral college disregard the votes of the young?

Biden would not be President without Gen Z voters.

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The dumb part is that your vote only matters if you live in certain places. Trump and Bush should never have become Presidents in the first place.

If you’re a Republican in rural California, it doesn’t matter. Nor if you’re a young Gem Z Democrat in California who voted after your favorite candidate was already guaranteed. Your vote doesn’t help offset a vote in Alabama or Wyoming or whatever for the opposite candidate. Your vote would matter more if you moved to a red or purple state.

We can pretend it’s democratic, but for “the land of the free” always talking about trying to spread democracy everywhere, the US is actually a pretty sucky and underwhelming system.

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Gore never became President. Did you maybe mean Bush?

I have a lot of problems with the Electoral College, but voting absolutely still has impact and the number of states that have become “battlegrounds” is increasing, rather than decreasing, as more people vote.

Beyond that, local elections absolutely matter, as book bans, trans legislation etc very clearly shows.

But again, yes, the EC is absolutely ridiculous and stupid.

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The whole point of the Electoral College was to be undemocratic iirc. They wanted the “elite” to vote and never envisioned a world like today. The senate is similar, California and Wyoming have the same amount of votes in the Senate even though there are a lot more people in California than Wyoming.
The house even capped their members at one point, I think big populated states like NY and CA should dwarf smaller states but we can’t go above a certain number of House Reps.

Just all over our government it tries to be “fair” to states, ignoring actual people. I don’t know how to fix it though. I don’t think direct democracy with 300+ million people is gonna work and even though the GOP is rotten and immoral and awful, it wouldn’t exactly be fair that ~40 million Californians stomped on everything 500k Wyomese wanted at the federal level.

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I guess we’ll see if he can last more than a single term

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If he doesn’t, and it’s because Gen Z numbers tank, that supports my argument even further

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It’s not the votes of the young that get diminished, it’s the political minority depending on state.

Conservative voter in California? Your vote doesn’t matter.

Liberal voter in Arkansas? Your vote doesn’t matter.

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Well, yeah. But it’s good to see GOP deflection on this issue isn’t working

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I don’t know that they’re even trying. They don’t give a shit what poor young people think, and their asshole supporters parrot that “they don’t deserve it” and “they should’ve known better before they took the loan”… completely ignorant of the massive economic crisis the nation is facing because of it.

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“Let’s sell children massive debt by telling them they’ll be loser nobodies without it” - Murica

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And then tell them they’re losers when those loans don’t work out.

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Ribbit

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As they should…

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Democrats can at least pretend being dumb. Conservatives not even that. And considering they do not offer any other plan for neoslaves…

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Can someone parse this for me?

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Do not go into the darkness. The tinfoil is strong with that one.

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Democrats pretend to be dumb sometimes and republicans can’t pretend because they are dumb?

I don’t really understand the second sentence at all. Just a bunch of nonsense.

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