At that point you should just get a tankless and never have your shower cry sessions interrupted by cold water again.
Every tankless I’ve used has been a piece of crap. Constantly breaking down. Heat surging and going cold in the shower. Outright just not heating water. All within 2 years of install. Never again. Tanks only for me from now on.
I ended up getting 2 hot water tanks and putting them in series. Endless hot water doing it that way. I’ve also plumbed it so that if one fails I can adjust a few valves and run on one tank until I can fix/replace the other.
I should note, I live 160km from the nearest city so I can’t just call a guy out to fix things.
That’s amazing. I mean, I haven’t seen/heard of a tanked hotwater heater in my country in decades, outside of increasingly infrequent rooftop solar heated tanks.
We’ve got instant gas, but I suppose most are electric now. Been running for decades with only needing to be adjusted between summer and winter temps sometimes.
Tanks are just… Useless. Takes up space with no benefit. Tanks use more power or gas. They fail more often (despite your personal experience).
If your tankless system is lasting less than 20 years, you’re doing something wrong. If your tankless isn’t giving steady water temp nonstop, you’re doing something wrong. I mean, those are two of the main benefits they have over tanks. That, and cheaper to run.
Their only advantage is they’re cheap to buy and cheap to install.
It’s the cheap boots issue.
You save money up front and so you waste money long term.
Or, you buy good boots that last.
Dang that sucks. My house came with some kind of Rinnai unit and it’s worked pretty well. I clean it out with a special chemical wash every year or two and it’s been great. Every now and then it decides it doesn’t want to go, but I just unplug and plug it in and it’s good for the next few months.
I’d rather be able to shower with no power tbh…specifically opted for at.ospheric for that reason. Much cheaper to buy upfront and works in the event of big storms etc… tankless can suck my dirty nuts but I see the appeal, kinda…
Unless you’re showering in the basement, then your pump doesn’t work, and you’ll flood the basement as soon as you fill up the waste water tank.
That’s… what?
In my home there aren’t any pumps.
Water comes in, under pressure, from the city to my water outlets around the house.
Waste water goes down a drain and out into the cities sewage system completely by gravity.
So… Shower with no power. Instant gas heaters are the best option. Cheap to run, steady temp, no electricity needed.
Well, once in one place I rented I had to change the 9v battery that was used to light/spark it, but otherwise, no electricity needed at all.
Don’t have household gas? Just connect it to a gas bbq bottle. For me, I had to swap it every month, but for a family, I’d probably get a bigger canister. They’re all fairly cheap to refill-swap.
Tankless are so much better in every way.
I’d love to see a tankless that you can run without power, also please don’t hook up a natural gas tankless to propane…
as someone who has only ever lived in an apartment, the idea that you’d run out of hot water is so fucking insane to me
Aww so you don’t know the feeling of trying to convince yourself that the water coming out of only the hot pipe is still warm enough to continue showering.
How do you know when you’re done showering when the shower doesn’t kick you out?
For me it’s when I regain consciousness, after staring into the endless void that envelopes us all in its dark embrace… Or when I wanna go to bed.
it’s like how as kids we want to gorge on candy, then when we get to decide our own diet we do that once and from then on there is no more desire to gorge because we know it’s actually not that great.
you don’t actually want to shower for 3 hours, it just feels that way because you never get to reach the point where you naturally stop wanting to shower.
lol yes it’s a standard form of housing, remember that 80% of people live in urban areas basically no matter which country you’re talking about. 50% of the population lives in the 3 metropolitan areas, the vast majority of the population lives south of gävle, and basically everyone in the north lives on the coast or in the few inland urban areas.
The nordics are honestly pretty similar to north america, just on a much smaller scale. no one lives in wyoming but that doesn’t mean the USA has no dense areas (NYC has a larger population than norway).
Wdym the Nordics are like America? They have history and living traditions
Absolutely, the majority of the population does live in “small houses” with 1-2 families but over 40% live in “Multifamily residential” with more than 2 families per building. I suspect that most of the “Multifamily residential” buildings are considered to be apartments.
The country is very sparse but that’s mainly because there is a lot of land with absolutely nothing except trees. Most live in cities or towns where it’s much denser (obviously nowhere close to Paris or London though)
So they do have apartments but only in Stockholm and Malmö (basically the only cities they have)
Holy shit this caught me off guard, hahahaha.
This was the first actual out-loud laughter of my day. Thanks!
Go tankless or go home baybee
