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Israeli journalists can’t really say anything else…

In one notable incident, the ultra-orthodox leftwing journalist Israel Frey posted a video saying Kaddish (the Jewish prayer for the dead) for the victims of the Hamas slaughter and Palestinian civilians under fire in Gaza.

Soon afterwards, an anonymous user of the Telegram messaging platform published his address, which was shared widely by rightwing groups, and a mob turned up outside, lobbing fireworks at his windows, forcing him to flee with his family. He is now in hiding.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/an-atmosphere-of-fear-free-speech-under-threat-in-israel-activists-say

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Reminds me of what happened to the teacher who shared the cartoon of mohammed.

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The problem isn’t any of the religions, it’s the far right extremists.

That’s why their actions are so similar, the religion honestly doesn’t matter at that point

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Religion is just one of the tools used by fascism. Another lever of power to be bent and broken to ensure absolute control.

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religion itself is a fire accelerant

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The problem isn’t any of the religions

Have you… read any of the texts?

It’s okay to say some of the shit in these religions is morally reprehensible on its face and not just because someone is interpreting it wrong.

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So they’re now doing pogroms on their own people.

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They’re racist against the actual Palestinian race Jews that lived there for 100s of years because they look like Arabs and not like the European jews. They probably think Mozes was a white dude.

israel is such a massive racist hypocrisy meme that movies that made me go “wow that’s completely unrealistic humans would never be that stupid” now makes me go “yeah that makes sense”.

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Soon afterwards, an anonymous user of the Telegram messaging platform published his address, which was shared widely by rightwing groups, and a mob turned up outside, lobbing fireworks at his windows, forcing him to flee with his family. He is now in hiding.

Wow, attacking Jew, that’s very antisemite.

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I’m not saying this story isn’t true. But keep in mind this source has a heavy pro-Israel bias. I’d prefer to see a more independent source present this story.

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Even if it is true, it’s still a hospital. Israel isn’t demonstrating that it’s being used exclusively by Hamas to commit acts of terror.

If an enemy is hiding behind a human shield, that’s not an excuse to shoot the hostage.

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The rules of war do not state it has to be used exclusively to commit attacks to be a legal target.

Rule 28. Medical units exclusively assigned to medical purposes must be respected and protected in all circumstances. They lose their protection if they are being used, outside their humanitarian function, to commit acts harmful to the enemy.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule28#:~:text=to medical units-,Rule 28.,and protected in all circumstances.

the protection of medical units ceases when they are being used, outside their humanitarian function, to commit acts harmful to the enemy. This exception is provided for in the First and Fourth Geneva Conventions and in both Additional Protocols.[37] It is contained in numerous military manuals and military orders.[38] It is also supported by other practice.[39]

While the Geneva Conventions and Additional Protocols do not define “acts harmful to the enemy”, they do indicate several types of acts which do not constitute “acts harmful to the enemy”, for example, when the personnel of the unit is armed, when the unit is guarded, when small arms and ammunition taken from the wounded and sick are found in the unit and when wounded and sick combatants or civilians are inside the unit.[40] According to the Commentary on the First Geneva Convention, examples of acts harmful to the enemy include the use of medical units to shelter able-bodied combatants, to store arms or munitions, as a military observation post or as a shield for military action.[41]

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That’s an awful lot of words to say “shoot the hostages.”

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Am i justified in killing the baby someone is using as a hostage to kill the hostage taker?

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Reading through these threads since the Hamas attack, this point is lost on 99% of people here.

Newsflash - combatants don’t just get to set up shop in a church or hospital to have their opponents throw up their hands in defeat.

People bitch at Israel but don’t say a god damn thing about Hamas effectively painting a target on the building they occupy.

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Why is this hard for people to understand?

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Here to commiserate 🖖

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Was it actually the Hospital or the parking lot ?

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It could be that the IDF is possibly lying.

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What’s an IOF?

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Israeli Offence Force

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The original source of the attack was from Hamas…so there’s that. And most sources outside these two bubbles tend towards the misfired missle from Gaza as the most likely explanation.

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Is it even worth reading anymore after so many lies?

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