100 points

Never trust cloud solutions when it isn’t your cloud.

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It’s just someone else’s computer.

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63 points

My previous house was smart down to nearly every light being RGB Hue. For movie nights it kicked ass to be able to sync the lights in my living room / kitchen to the movie.

The challenge in IoT is the “I”. Many companies make cheap products that REQUIRE internet to work and are not going to work longer than a decade in most cases.

When I was designing that house I had made it a point to not purchase any device that was not Zigbee, Z-Wave or Natively compatible with HomeKit which led to a very robust setup that would continue to function even when the internet was down.

If you are dabbling I recommend making the same decision even if you plan to use GoogleHome or Alexa. The HomeKit compatible things usually cost more for a reason.

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14 points

The only devices I have that are on Wi-Fi are ones I got before learning about HA. Zigbee FTW 👍

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ZWave is also another great mesh network, and Bluetooth can also work if the right integration is there.

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6 points

I’m saving this comment.

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50 points

This decision was made so that we can continue to provide the best possible experience

The best possibile experience is having a single app that can do the whole house, not a broken proprietary app that occupies 200 mb of space on the phone and that takes 5 seconds to start because of its fancy splash screen

Don’t understand this, they are actively kicking out customers

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Ah yes best possibile experience is this: (from the ars Technica article about it)

“Sadly, this app now displays advertisement at the very top and I cannot find a way to disable it,” writes one Play Store reviewer (Google doesn’t provide links to reviews). “This is very disturbing and on top of it, it moves my garage opening button out of the visible part of the screen. So to use it I now have to first look at the ads, then scroll down and hope to find my button.”

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16 points

Gross. Hard pass.

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3 points

This is what it looks like now. The ad always occupies that space at the top

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1 point

Ahhh, subscription for being integrated in a car. While instead with home assistant you could just say hey [assistant] open the door

Too bad they have a monopoly in the NA market

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18 points

They’re not talking about your experience. They’re talking about the experience at the CEO’s summer house… That tennis court will not build itself and not for free 😁

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Anything that only uses a phone app creates a mediocre experience by definition.

If it uses a standard API, it can integrate with anything and is convenient. You can use the phone if you want to.

All in all, there’s definitely a worrying trend for the worse in the market.

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The myQ app sucks so much, it doesn’t even have Siri integration or widgets. Plus it’s riddled with ads for their $100 camera.ARE YOU KIDDING ME‽ I’m 1 starting this actively (meaning at every update I renew my review)

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Companies should be held accountable for bullshit like that.

My idea goes like this: In order to be able to sell some device you need to deposit its source code and the sources for all updates with the proper authorities.

If you then don’t provide updates maintaining a) security and b) functionality of said device, because for example you go bankrupt, financially, or like in this very case morally, all of those sources are released and from then on are open source.

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A Deadman switch on the source sounds like an eff thing. I’d support it. Heck, while I was still maintaining a well-used oss app, I’d’ve wanted a Deadman switch on the signing keys so distro could continue without stress, but the sad fact was no one picked up my project even when I announced its impending doom.

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I kind of like your idea… But I am not sure if the authorities would be great for this…

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33 points

This shit makes me fucking howl with laughter every time. Anyone that expects a device with a vendor supplied cloud connection to not get bricked a couple years after release is a goddamn idiot.

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6 points

This is why I just wired a zigbee relay in parallel with the wall button for my generic garage door opener

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This is the way. At least you can troubleshoot it and it doesn’t need an internet connection. The amount of HA users that still rely on outside APIs is ridiculous. I won’t run anything that needs an internet connection to work, that’s the litmus test.

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I hope you dont use a weather integration, you of course get your weather information directly from NOAA satelites or another non-internet source.

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Sadly, that trend looks more true with each year.

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