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The Jews don’t control the media, it’s an antisemitic dog whistle.

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We dont do antisemitism here bro

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The angrier boomer artists get, the more detail they put on your face

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really feels like Iraq war era WMD comics

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Damn this triggered some crazy nostalgia…I didn’t even know that’s what I was looking at as a kid

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I feel really irritated by this human shields narrative, mostly because it is so stupid and baseless that I honestly don’t know how to address people who believe it. I feel the same way now as I did when the world was bombarded with this crap in 2014.

How can anyone read into any aspect of the conflict on any day and come to the honest conclusion that the IDF’s campaign is justified, all because every Palestinian civilian fatality is a “human shield”? How come I’ve never heard a Zionist provide a concrete definition of a human shield?

Human shields have been used in conflicts before. The example that comes to mind for me is in former Yugoslavia when Bosnian Serb forces held UN peacekeepers as hostages inside barracks to deter NATO from bombing them. That is a legitimate example of a human shield. In this example, the hostages deterred bombing, and there were also negotiations which took place to secure the release of those UN hostages.

In contrast in Gaza, any civilian who dies from a bombing is retrospectively labelled as a “human shield”, and most of the time no information is provided as to who the target of the bombing was, nor whether civilians were forced to remain in the vicinity of said target. We are just expected to believe that all hit buildings surrounding the hospitals they terrorise contained a legitimate military target. Same with bakeries. Same with ambulances. Same with refugee camps. Surely that is evidence enough that they’re not human shields? If the Israeli forces are not deterred by these “human shields”, then they either cease to be or never were, human shields.

Whenever they drop a bomb, the whole world is just expected to believe that the civilian wasn’t a civilian, or that the building was a Hamas base, or that it contained rockets, or that there was a tunnel entrance inside the building, or that there is a tunnel somewhere underneath it, or that it was used to fire rockets. The term “human shield” in this context has something to do with skewing the validity of all of the victims.

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They cry “human shields” because they claim Hamas is hiding in hospitals, refugee camps, churches, etc. which then justifies them massacring civilians because Hamas was among them. I saw a guy on twitter come up with the hypothetical that “if your family was being held hostage in a house but the kidnappers also had six children in there, would you really be okay with the government/military standing back and saying “we can’t do anything, there are kids in there.”” I mean, why would I want the government to bomb the place my family is being held hostage in? That would literally get them killed and, unlike the hypothetical guy, I’m not an asshole who thinks innocents can and should be collateral damage.

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if your family was being held hostage in a house but the kidnappers also had six children in there, would you really be okay with the government/military standing back and saying “we can’t do anything, there are kids in there

I know liberals have zero object permanence , but its like he forgot what you were talking about when he started his argument, and then forgot how he began his argument by the end. Shit like this has got to be AI only a predictive text algorithm or someone with Alzheimer’s has that little awareness, unless he just likes imagining scenarios where his whole family gets killed

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They cry “human shields” because they claim Hamas is hiding in hospitals, refugee camps, churches, etc. which then justifies them massacring civilians because Hamas was among them.

Which is absurd since Hamas is just regular Palestinians who are part of this group so they don’t “hide” in hospitals they… just are there or not. I know it’s a low hanging fruit at this point but imagine if Russia bombed an hospital and said “well they were hiding UAF soldiers there” they would instantly see how ridiculous that claim is

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imagine if Russia bombed an hospital and said “well they were hiding UAF soldiers there” they would instantly see how ridiculous that claim is

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t something like that happen? Like, UAF soldiers were hiding in/around civilian areas which resulted in Russian forces attacking said places? This is not an excuse or defence, I just literally remember something like that making the rounds…

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Al Jazeera (Arabic) literally found them using ambulance-esque van vehicles to transport military soldiers and even Amnesty International condemned them for it…

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/

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Yeah I think I remembered too. Well I’m not gonna deny that the Russian army committed war crimes if that’s the case, even if the SMO was necessary

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