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I got the Hollywood escort from my local Apple store for simply trying to stand my ground over a cell phone that had been returned nine times (yes that’s nine appointments) being handed back to me with the exact problem. Being told to make a tenth appointment was the last straw for me, and I asked to simply get this resolved now. Their response was to call security after I calmly told them I wasn’t leaving until someone with some common sense would come up with a workable resolution for me.

Y’all are acting surprised here. I’m not surprised. This company is literally scum of the earth, with zero concern over their behavior towards their customers. Fuck apple.

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They appear to me to be the “cash grab” made manifest.

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This benchmarking is just nonsense. (I don’t recommend MBP 8GB btw.)

Why do you compare MBP 8GB and 16GB… I believe Apple was talking about MBP M3 8GB vs Windows laptops of non-unified 16GB RAM.

And, of course, you won’t use Adobe’s creator products on an 8GB MBP.

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you won’t use Adobe’s creator products on an 8GB MBP.

there’s a shitload of students that buy the cheapest macbook that they can afford, because all they know is “professional designers must use a Mac”. They can barely know how to launch Photoshop from the applications folder, how they can know that 8gb is not enough for any kind of work? They see the price it’s $1600, it’s 2-3x than a cheap Windows PC, so they automatically assume it’s the best they can get.

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It’s a real disservice Apple is doing to their own brand here. I work with college students in adjacent fields every day and the logic follows as you describe. It’s a $1600 laptop surely it’s capable of anything I need as a student or hobbyist right? Nope. An 8GB machine can barely load the VSTs and other audio thingamajigs they like to pile on it, what is prosumer graphics design going to do to it?

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It’s the year 2033, Apple releases the M11 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of RAM.

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Apple enthusiasts claim it’s literally double the amount of RAM they need for their workload. They proceed to watch Netflix in a google chrome window where it’s the only tab open on their 2500 dollar computer.

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Heh, an optimist here assuming Chrome will work with 8Gb RAM in 2033

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It does. I have 16GB on my Mac, and half of it is given over to a virtual machine running Linux.

Chrome (and 20 or so other things) runs fine on the remaining 8GB.

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We removed the headphone jack for your benefit.

We kept the lightning cable for your benefit.

We didn’t increase the base model’s memory for your benefit.

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56 points

Let’s be honest 8gb is lower end for a phone now never mind a computer. Then again if someone just wants to watch YouTube or shop on the Web it’s fine.

Shouldn’t be on anything named pro though.

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If that’s all you wanna do then get a tablet, not a damn MacBook pro

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… one of the tests here is editing an 8K video. That’s not an every day use case.

There are pro users that don’t need anywhere near that much memory.

For example QLab. It’s definitely “pro” software - but it’s just automation software and commonly used for tasks like sending a 20 character text string to another computer on the network when you hit a button… it can do more complex things but most of the time the cheapest Raspberry Pi has enough compute power (you can’t run it, or anything like it, on Linux however).

A MacBook Air would be useless, because it doesn’t have HDMI, and that often is needed. Professionals don’t want to use dongles.

While most people running QLab won’t be too budget sensitive… they might be buying six Macs that won’t be used to do anything else ever*,… so since it only uses a few hundred megabytes of RAM why spend Apple’s premium prices on 16GB?

(* half of them will probably never even be used, since they’d be backups powered on and ready to swap in with a few seconds notice if the main one fails, which almost never happens)

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There are pro users that don’t need anywhere near that much memory.

Well, every computer is ”Pro” if you take professional writers as an example. But this is a marketing term anyways, not a definition. If it was an actual definition then I’d take it to cover ”most professional computing tasks”.

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But if you just want to watch YouTube and shop on the Web you definitely don’t need an M3.

An M3 chip with a 8gb RAM is just plain stupid. The problem it’s not the 8gb RAM per sé.

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Next Macbook Pro’s will have 4GB RAM because fuck you that’s why! Find out more on the next episode of “Pay more for basic features”.

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