“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.

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Taking from my comment on the other community where you posted this:

Biden asked for one and reported Netanyahu said no.

The headline sounds like he’s just dismissing his staffers

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You mean the headline is intentionally misleading to the point of misinforming people?

It’s straight up journalistic malpractice the way they phrased it

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Correlation does not imply causation. Just because you misinterpret the headline doesn’t make it wrong.

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It doesn’t matter what the intent is here, the headline is misleading, which is poor journalist integrity. Both malice and ignorance can sink a ship.

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“Ok then stop sending bombs and using reaper drones to help them perform mass killings”

“No can do chief, Bibi told me I need to keep doing all that.”

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Considering the power that the US has over Israel, he pretty much is just dismissing his staffers.

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And that’s the headline. Thanks.

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It’s almost like the US isn’t technically a combatant here.

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That makes me feel better, but I wish he would put some weight behind it.

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Even if IDF stops shooting, what really makes people believe Hamas will stop? I want an end to the violence as much as anyone else but I really don’t see a cease fire doing anything but giving Hamas time to rearm and plan their next massacre.

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And if IDF doesn’t stop shooting like they do now, will the continued escalation make less people flock to anti-israel organization like Hamas? Because all I can see happening is that, while Israel may take over some land, they are just strengthening the support of terrorists.

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I assumed people could read past the headline.

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I mean… Isn’t the point of the headline to concisely represent the article? That’s the entire reason clickbait is considered bad.

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Yes, the information in the article is unimportant because the headline is cumbersome. /s

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And that is a reason to make the headline misleading?

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Don’t read the article and remain ignorant then. This is a distraction from the contents.

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To be fair, i don’t think Israel is going to do a cease fire even if we yeet all the aid and support we promised them. Netty has been wanting this fight for… ages.

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Not too sure on that, US has many ways to force cease fires as good as starting coups.

I think if we had a president and congress that wanted it done, it would be done.

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if we had a president and congress that wanted it done, Israel wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing it in the first place, really. I’m just saying at this point, I don’t think there’s a lot we can do. and as for starting a coup… that has never worked out well for the US.

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Au contraire, I saw bananas on sale the other day for just 59 cents.

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Considering how well those coups worked out, I’d really like for that sad chapter of US history to stay history, as much as I despise Bibi’s reactionary government.

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Someone remind me when the next election is for Israel.

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Well, IMO the coups did what was required, same in latin america.

It stopped the political party that was going to rule and chaos would ensue.

Due to party plans of interfering with US corporations and allies.

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Well, if we yeet all the aid we send them, at least we won’t be facilitating a genocide in as many ways.

That’s a start and a step worth taking.

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Keep in mind, part of the reason we’ve given all this aid to Israel, historically, is precisely for that leverage it gives us.

People are rolling in their graves that we’re not using it.

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Let’s stop all aid to Israel and go from there.

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In all honesty, if this wasn’t serving as a proxy war that might have been possible, but I think with China, Iran, and Russia squaring up to support Palestine there’s no way we’re going to cut off Israel. From a big picture perspective Israel is the only real ally the US or western powers have in the middle east and even if we dumped them for the crimes they commit it would ultimately hurt the US and western powers to abandon or sanction them.

I saw an article saying that Belgium is considering sanctions against Israel, but Belgium is also a NATO country and only has 24k active troops with an additional 6k in reserves. In 2022 Belgium had the third lowest % GDP military investment out of the NATO countries.

Whether we like it or not the big players in the game aren’t looking at the atrocities Israel commits in Gaza, they’re looking at whether they will have a foothold and ally in the middle east if we have a World War.

We as individuals can take a stance on the conflict without considering the geopolitical outcomes, but to be able to do so we should admit that we are in a place of privilege. I imagine that if news came out that Ukraine blew up a school Poland still would still support Ukraine, because they’re right next door.

At the same time, countries which don’t meaningfully contribute to their own defense should recognize their privilege when it comes to the world stage.

EDIT: Had accidentally called Ukraine Russia, fixed now.

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Ok but I’d really like to see our government try to make demands or ultimatums

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Agreed.

Just because a thing is hard doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done. I’m just a realist. They won’t stop until the hardliners on both sides are gone.

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But BiBi promised I could have ice cream and stay up late, he cant say no now 😿

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Stopping the aid might not stop him but heavy sanctions definitely would.

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And even if he didn’t want the fight, a ceasefire now would destroy his coalition, being down the government , remove him from power, and probably end up with him personally in prison from the outstanding corruption allegations

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This was reported for having a misleading headline, however the headline on the post is the exact same as the headline on the article.

I agree, the headline makes it sound like Biden was addressing the “500+ former staffers” when he was not, that’s an issue to take up with commondreams.org.

If OP had editorialized the headline in a misleading fashion, I’d remove it. In this case they are accurately passing along the headline from the article.

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Consider the quality of sources allowed to be posted to the community. Some sites are bad, and it’s okay to filter them out in the interest of quality.

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We have talked about that, and commondreams.org has a high credibility rating and is allowed to be posted here:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/common-dreams/

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That’s helpful, thank you. I take issue with their headlines is all.

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The articles themselves are fine. I just take issue with the editorialized and biased headlines. It’s a bias I agree with though so I don’t exactly have a list of examples.

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That doesn’t mean you can’t remove the post because the article headline is misleading, it’s just that the blame lies on the site rather than OP.

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Our policy is that the headline must match that of the article, so any problem with the headline should be directed at the people writing it.

Leaving the post drives the discussion of how and why the headline is misleading, which is in and of itself a valuable conversation.

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In just over a month, Israeli bombing has killed nearly 11,000 people in Gaza and displaced more than 70% of the territory’s population.

Jesus wept.

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Yeah. Have they canceled Daveyet?

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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Surprised it’s not higher. Gaza’s government has spent $0 on defensive technologies. Zero radar installations, zero anti-aircraft weapons, zero SAM, zero bomb bunkers.

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I mean every time they and repair anything… but I’m not supposed to talk about that, that’s antisemitism. /s 🤮

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What everytime they repair something they can’t help but execute a little slave raid?

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CommonDreams is a garbage site.

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Probably not as bad as the establishment funded tpm.

Eta:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/common-dreams/

Detailed Report

Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: Mostly Free
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

About the same:, so my mistake. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/talking-points-memo/

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Don’t like the facts, attack the source. Way to limit yourself.

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CommonDreams in general is garbage site, regardless of the issue being reported or my feelings about the issue. There are many, many better sources.

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Then post them, so I can complain about your source. /s

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