“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.
To be fair, i don’t think Israel is going to do a cease fire even if we yeet all the aid and support we promised them. Netty has been wanting this fight for… ages.
Not too sure on that, US has many ways to force cease fires as good as starting coups.
I think if we had a president and congress that wanted it done, it would be done.
if we had a president and congress that wanted it done, Israel wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing it in the first place, really. I’m just saying at this point, I don’t think there’s a lot we can do. and as for starting a coup… that has never worked out well for the US.
Considering how well those coups worked out, I’d really like for that sad chapter of US history to stay history, as much as I despise Bibi’s reactionary government.
Well, IMO the coups did what was required, same in latin america.
It stopped the political party that was going to rule and chaos would ensue.
Due to party plans of interfering with US corporations and allies.
Well, if we yeet all the aid we send them, at least we won’t be facilitating a genocide in as many ways.
That’s a start and a step worth taking.
Ok but I’d really like to see our government try to make demands or ultimatums
In all honesty, if this wasn’t serving as a proxy war that might have been possible, but I think with China, Iran, and Russia squaring up to support Palestine there’s no way we’re going to cut off Israel. From a big picture perspective Israel is the only real ally the US or western powers have in the middle east and even if we dumped them for the crimes they commit it would ultimately hurt the US and western powers to abandon or sanction them.
I saw an article saying that Belgium is considering sanctions against Israel, but Belgium is also a NATO country and only has 24k active troops with an additional 6k in reserves. In 2022 Belgium had the third lowest % GDP military investment out of the NATO countries.
Whether we like it or not the big players in the game aren’t looking at the atrocities Israel commits in Gaza, they’re looking at whether they will have a foothold and ally in the middle east if we have a World War.
We as individuals can take a stance on the conflict without considering the geopolitical outcomes, but to be able to do so we should admit that we are in a place of privilege. I imagine that if news came out that Ukraine blew up a school Poland still would still support Ukraine, because they’re right next door.
At the same time, countries which don’t meaningfully contribute to their own defense should recognize their privilege when it comes to the world stage.
EDIT: Had accidentally called Ukraine Russia, fixed now.
Damn looks like there is ‘No Possibility’ that I will be voting for that cuck ever again.
State polls show he is tied or winning in some cases over biden.
When certain two unnamed 3rd party people are included, numbers shift in an interesting way.
For biden to win, polling needs to be couple points higher, not just tied.
One year out, so… will be interesting to see how well polling works this time around.
His opponent will end the war in 24 hours! But you probably won’t like how he ends it…
God help me, I watched part of the GOP debate the other night, when asked what they would tell Netanyahu, they were all super eager to gove some variation of, “finish the job” neglecting to clarify if they meant Hamas or Palestine. I’m surprised none of them slipped and suggested a final solution. Sorry, but if you don’t like Biden, you really aren’t gonna like these folks take on it.
He talked to Netanyahu, Netanyahu refused a cease-fire. What specifically do you think he should be doing?
About the genocide? The most you’re willing to demand from you government is that they ask their client state to stop doing genocide? Sanctions, pull all aid, condemnations, anything. They’re slaughtering civillians by the thousands.
I’m asking a careful question to know what the other person supported. That doesn’t mean I believe nothing else should be done beyond saying “please stop”. The US has a terrible history of unilaterally imposing its will on self-governing nations, and however horrid the events in Gaza, I’d like our response not to continue in that tradition.
@BluJay320 yup. That’s how we got that orange idiot the first time. And this time he actually has a viable plan to destroy democracy.
Taking from my comment on the other community where you posted this:
Biden asked for one and reported Netanyahu said no.
The headline sounds like he’s just dismissing his staffers
I mean… Isn’t the point of the headline to concisely represent the article? That’s the entire reason clickbait is considered bad.
Yes, the information in the article is unimportant because the headline is cumbersome. /s
Considering the power that the US has over Israel, he pretty much is just dismissing his staffers.
Even if IDF stops shooting, what really makes people believe Hamas will stop? I want an end to the violence as much as anyone else but I really don’t see a cease fire doing anything but giving Hamas time to rearm and plan their next massacre.
And if IDF doesn’t stop shooting like they do now, will the continued escalation make less people flock to anti-israel organization like Hamas? Because all I can see happening is that, while Israel may take over some land, they are just strengthening the support of terrorists.
You mean the headline is intentionally misleading to the point of misinforming people?
It’s straight up journalistic malpractice the way they phrased it
Correlation does not imply causation. Just because you misinterpret the headline doesn’t make it wrong.
It doesn’t matter what the intent is here, the headline is misleading, which is poor journalist integrity. Both malice and ignorance can sink a ship.
In just over a month, Israeli bombing has killed nearly 11,000 people in Gaza and displaced more than 70% of the territory’s population.
Jesus wept.
Surprised it’s not higher. Gaza’s government has spent $0 on defensive technologies. Zero radar installations, zero anti-aircraft weapons, zero SAM, zero bomb bunkers.
I mean every time they and repair anything… but I’m not supposed to talk about that, that’s antisemitism. /s 🤮
Remember this blood is on the hands of anyone who voted for him and would vote for him again.
Genocide is Biden’s legacy, hope it was worth saving “democracy”.
Your downvotes are a witness against you and do not absolve you of your guilt.
Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.
On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.
Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.
No, he’s just the one supporting funding and arming Israel no matter what they do for decades and voting for him continued to enable Israel which inevitably led to this moment we’re at now.
On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.
Whataboutism.
Whataboutism.
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
The choice to vote for Biden is linked to the choice to vote against Trump. They can not be separated from one another. To do so is to be disingenuous. We live in a democracy with a two party system. The Republican party is disproportionally represented by our electoral system and win with low voter turn out.
Since we can not separate the choice of voting for Biden and rejecting Trump, it is justified to bring up what Trump and the Republicans would do. If we want any chance of the US demanding a ceasefire then we need to reject the Republican party who will blindly support Israeli no mater what.
Sorry to disappoint you, but if the president was Trump or any other Republican your government would have been even firmer behind Israel, so it is a choice between a bad and a worse president.
Nope. Cold hard truth to your fucking pathetic attempt at putting Netty’s bloodthirst on Biden. You are beyond pathetic and frankly beyond stupid.
Not voting for him again directly enables a guy that would do so much worse. Your stance lacks any understanding of the limits to our voting system.
Israel could genocide all 2.2 million people living in the Gaza Strip, all 3 million people living in the West Bank, the 1.6 million Palestinian people who live in Israel, the 5.5 million people living in Lebanon and get into a massive conflict in the Middle East where they end up using nuclear weapons.
Oh, and Trump could deport the 225 thousand Palestinian people living in the United States so Israel can genocide them too. Or just do it here in America. The Republicans will almost certainly streamline the death penalty and turn America’s mass incarceration system into death camps.
That you apparently have the privilege to not be affected by the consequences of a Republican government doesn’t invalidate the choices of those who would be, and voted accordingly.
We are all complicit in the same way we are all complicit for the war crimes committed by America in the Middle East: most of us did not have a choice in the matter whatsoever. All we can do is demand them to stop.
I’m not going to judge someone whose choices are “genocide” and “genocide even more, and even more local genocide” and picks the former.
On the contrary, you are displaying the tremendous privilege of living in the imperial core by being able to choose between “‘genocide’ and ‘genocide even more, and even more local genocide’” and justify literally voluntarily voting to choose genocide in order to make yourself feel more comfortable within the imperial core.
True fascism taking power in the US means that I and the people around me will be murdered. But I don’t feel the ethical apathy to be able to coldly prefer international genocide of others to keep myself safe at home all the while pretending like I saved the freedom for the entire world as children and whole families are being murdered. Biden is not the progressive savior all of you claimed he was, now at least you admit you chose “genocide”—which I do, and history will, judge harshly.
If you choose to vote for him again after this, you will consciously approve of genocide and be all the more guilty.
All right, but this doesn’t make you any different from Trump supporters that Democrats love to accuse of (mostly correctly) being fascists.
The problem with you feeling like this critique makes you defensive and want to just go for the easy option is that there is always another option that you could do but it seems like it’s impossible for it to dawn upon you people. It’s either genocide or worse genocide. No other choice. But it’s also totally a functioning democracy worth defending, unlike those other bloodthirsty authoritarian regimes.
If you can’t figure out another option or don’t support it or think it’s impossible because it’s difficult so might as well not do it, then continue doing as you are but, yes, be aware there is blood on your hands and you are acting as a fascist supporter at best.
