I guess it is a consequence of the Reddit migration where the habit is just keeping the old community name. But having C/Politics being US only on Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
Would have been cool to give up this assumption that everything is related to US by default when moving away from Reddit. I mean, even the canadian political news of Lemmy.ca is CanadaPolitics.
More than weird, it should be corrected.
Well, that community is just as toxic and block-worthy as the reddit sub already. Mission accomplished.
I was more meaning wanting the admins to fuck around with the communities a la /u/spez.
Are the admins deleting global content or something? If not, wouldn’t correcting it just be more people from other countries posting their own political news?
It should change its name to US Leftist Politics. The mod u/YoBuckStopsHere is responsible for 80 percent of the posts and its comes with their bias. Their mods also delete posts and dont enforce the TOS. If you want to have any educated discussion about politics, thats not the place. Its a very close minded, hostile crowd over there.
Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It’s quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn’t have its own instance. I’ve already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn’t go anywhere.
Segue: Is there a way to enlarge these images on jerboa? They are teeny, and all touching them in any way does is hide/close the comment.
Edit: I see on Connect they actually work as links and can be opened in a new tab.
You can tell this isn’t true because not every country is a fucked up mess
Isn’t beehaw in the US? Also midwest.social? Or do you mean an instance run by the country itself?
Beehaw is a locked down walled garden instance that doesn’t seem to actually want to be everyone’s go to. That’s fine, but it doesn’t mean it makes sense for most people to join it.
Midwest.social is only specific to a small region of the US.
I don’t think every country necessarily needs their own instance though.
I mean like feddit.de, feddit.it, feddit.ch, feddit.uk, aussie.zone, lemmy.nz, feddit.cl, lemmy.eco.br, szmer.info… So if you want to have a community about a city in the country, or politics, or a sports team/league, that’s a better place to place for it than !texas@lemmy.world or !oregon@lemmy.world.
It also makes it easier for geographic features with the same name in multiple countries.
I disagree with the concept that there’s a better place for anything. If my account is here, I will create a community/magazine here. I’m not going to segregate myself simply because of my location. You can argue that an instance should suggest naming conventions for localized topics. But it’s up to the instance to require that. There’s no real rules between instances at all. So I find the discussion that a community doesn’t belong in a general purpose instance. If it doesn’t conflict with the intent of the instance and the instance has no naming convention, it’s first come, first serve.
Creating generic rules to apply to other instances aside from the protocol is simply not what the fediverse is about.
Edit to add: also, there’s no default instance for a country either. Sure those that you mentioned exist, but there’s no rule saying Germans need to put German specific things in feddit.de.
You could just sign up for Kbin. It already lets you block instances from it’s front end. I can’t speak to the diversity of something like kbin.social in regards to US vs elsewhere though. Personally, I think a language filter would be nice. For example instances (or even community/magazine level) could have a default language property and you’d be allowed to filter on that. It’d be a shame to block an entire instance just because it’s in a different country.
In regards to “US-specific” instances, I think the issue is more that folks in the US see less incentive to shoulder those costs if they can’t sell it. The charitable bodies willing to do this or that I’d even trust to do it are few and far between. All of this is just a theory though. I have nothing but my gut feeling to back it up. So take it with a grain of salt.
Personally, I think a language filter would be nice. For example instances (or even community/magazine level) could have a default language property and you’d be allowed to filter on that.
Wouldn’t help with the US-defaultism-problem though. English is
a) spoken in Europe as well (I mean… that’s where it’s from)
b) lingua franca for all the world
The fact that most of the world can’t really filter English discussions but English native speakers can filter almost everyone else’s just by language alone is part of the problem. Besides, you can already filter which languages you want to see in your profile settings.
I don’t have a problem with default-US on principle. I don’t want to filter out anything other than what I can’t read.
And don’t make assumptions. I can’t filter based on language. I really think most people are just failing this whole fediverse concept. I’m not even on lemmy.world let alone even using Lemmy.
I can’t filter based on language as far as I can tell on Kbin. I can already block communities/magazines, users, and entire domains for that matter. Kbin already “solved” this problem. My issue here is that it’s not a problem. If an instance is general purpose and a community doesn’t break any of its rules, I see no reason to be upset that someone took a community name before someone else. I’m not about to get behind the censorship bandwagon of majority rules (or maybe not even majority, just loud) taking over communities because they feel they can use the name in a better way.
As someone living in the United States, I personally do not want to be on a US only instance. US is a burning pile of poop right now. Please save us
You can stay if you learn other worldly dialects. Repeat after me: Cunt. Bloody Yanks. Fa- (ok maybe not that one). Guten Tag.
It definitely should change its name to US Politics.
Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)… or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?
There’s a rather large distinction there.
We love you Canada, but let’s be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that’s messed up.
The latter. Rule 2 of the community is “Must be articles relevant to US political news.”
It’s most likely because r/politics on Reddit was that way, and people tend to make subreddit clones on Lemmy.
Right, which I think is the root problem. Not all the subreddit names were great - I would have liked to have seen us try to do better - but I think many were just trying to make the correlation between communities and subreddits as obvious as possible.
IIRC, over half of Reddit’s traffic was US-based. I’d be interested to see if the same is true for lemmy.world.
I think it was about 47% but it was a relative majority, or a plurality as Americans call it.
or a plurality as Americans call it.
Those silly Americans, using words in line with their definitions
US people are way too blind to the existence of the outside world. I’m sure they have no idea that Lemmy.World is not in the US. I’m not really sure what could be done about this other than making a new more broad politics community. I’d prefer the generic named community to be the one that is the most broad and then if you wanted only US politics to make a more specific community such as !USPolitics@lemmy.world.
I don’t think it would be out of bounds for instance admins to force such change as they see fit if it makes enough sense.
We all have preferences, but unless you convince the admins to be onboard for moderating communities so that they all follow a specific rule and can’t be localized unless it’s part of the name, I’d say let it go. I am not comfortable with the idea of allowing majority rules to simply take over a community simply because they think they have better use for the name.
Or you know, !worldpolitics could be a thing and you could stop telling other people how to think and behave.
I’m not telling people how to think and behave. That is a weird thing to say in my opinion. I’m sharing my thoughts and feeling. I don’t mind if people disagree or have counter points to make. That is the nature of discussion.
You clearly have an agenda in asking the question. There’s no problem with that, but pretending you don’t is… weird.
Unless non-American politics is being deleted then it is just who the more prolific posters are.
