116 points
*

Close, but 2000s had some very intrusive and malware ridden advertisements. Popups everywhere, aggressive banners, malware and random browser toolbars being installed to your system. Complete wild west of unrestrained advertising. Online ad blocking didn’t start with Ublock Origin, the first tipping point was in the 90s and 2000s, where famously clean and effective search engine Google swooped in to “save us” with their Chrome browser blocking popups by default, and their own concept of ‘ethical ads’, which were mostly unobtrusive and text-based (what happened there?). Which was nice for a while before Google exploited the popularity that bought them to turn into an inescapable ad monster.

permalink
report
reply
17 points

before Google exploited the popularity

A classic example of enshittification stage 1 and 2, for those unfamiliar with the term.

permalink
report
parent
reply
43 points

In the year 2000, an internet friend gave me FTP credentials to a directory on his domain so I could host images and post them on the forum we were friends on.

He provided this service to all the forum users because we were all like :woah: when he started posting images that weren’t just leeched from another domain.

Eventually he did ask users throw him a few bucks, and then he made a tutorial on how to get your own domain and do it yourself.

Which tells me I’ve been using filezilla for about 2/3 of my life.

permalink
report
reply
15 points

I rented a web server with FTP in college, with my own domain that used my real name. I used it to transfer files to and from school computers. My classmates would sometimes forget their USB drives and think they just wasted a whole 3 hour lab session, and I would just quickly create some credentials for them and let them use my server. Everyone thought I was a god lol. These days, services like Google Drive have replaced the need for that (mostly), and everyone just takes it for granted. I think it’s funny that people are starting to see value in FTP again now that services like Google Drive and Discord are restricting the ability to use them for free hosting to post files onto external sites.

permalink
report
parent
reply
41 points

What are you talking about, ads were far worse back in the 90s /2000. Were you even using the Internet back then? Couldn’t block them and things like infinite pop ups were rampant, if you didn’t have a firewall setup and anti virus, your entire Windows 98 setup could be wrecked in minutes just being online

permalink
report
reply
30 points

You are the millionth visitor! Click here to redeem your prize!

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*

Again, the meme is not about the internet in 2000s. It is just about people sharing out of fun vs. “creators” wanting to monetize every little shit.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

It’s just such a common misconception that there was no ads in the ‘old Internet’, that’s all I was pointing out. There seems to be a nostalgic false memory that Internet back then didn’t have ads which is hilarious if you were there to see what it was like

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Ads are not the same thing as insanely granular data harvesting.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

WE MUST DESTROY X-10!

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

People seem to forget that before YouTube partnered with content creators people just kinda… uploaded stuff that they were passionate about. They didn’t do it for a living and they did not expect payment but might have asked for donations if their channel was costly to run. Sure, the production value and editing quality was a lot lower, but the core experience was still the same.

This is why I flatly reject the notion that me blocking ads on YouTube hurts content creators in any meaningful way, especially now that almost all of them are partnered with some kind of sponsor embedded in the video.

permalink
report
reply
7 points

The core experience was definitely not the same, what are you talking about? Yeah sure if you just wanted entertainment maybe, but educational content for example requires so much research and double checking that it wouldn’t be possible without ad money.

I’m not saying that blocking ads makes you a bad person (I did it too before I could afford premium), but it does have a measurable effect and pretending it doesn’t is stupid.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Yeah sure if you just wanted entertainment maybe, but educational content for example requires so much research and double checking that it wouldn’t be possible without ad money.

Research did not begin when YouTube started paying people to upload to their platform. It was already being done. It might be more accessible to people who only do YouTube and do not get grant money for their research, but saying research wouldn’t be possible without ad money is nonsense.

Also, adding a financial incentive to upload as many videos as possible to get as many clicks and views as possible doesn’t sound like the way you encourage truthful, factual, and well-researched educational content to get shared. If anything, it would encourage a lot of low effort clickbait, misleading titles and thumbnails, opinion pieces, “edutainment” and poorly sourced material mass produced for a wide audience. Not saying that’s what happened, I’m sure there are plenty of channels that exist now thanks in part to ad revenue helping them get started and/or continue posting at regular upload intervals, but the Cobra Effect is real and people will always be finding ways to take the path of least resistance to getting their payout.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I still use it that way. Any time ive had a problem that wasn’t adequately explained by youtube or elsewhere, if I solved it myself, Id make a simple YT tutorial for it and upload it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points
*

pays for own domain/no ads

There is a 0% chance you were an adult in the early 2000s lol

Imagine having ads in things but instead of just being there, they opened in new windows, were loud as fuck, and opened by the hundreds. That’s what the Internet was like

Pop up blockers walked so ad blockers could run.

permalink
report
reply
21 points
*

There is a 0% chance you were an adult in the early 2000s lol

I’m 49, dude. And the meme isn’t about “the internet”. It is literally about the difference between people sharing stuff back then and “creating content” today. Shitty internet parts have always been shitty, but at least people didn’t try to monetize even their beloved ones’ death.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-15 points

I’m 49 dude

Then you should remember these days more accurately.

People make social media posts instead of geocities pages these days. Content creators are more like the people who used to sell content online than they are the average chucklehead who made a geoshitty page.

People you see with lots of Twitter followers are exactly akin to people who ran pages on free hosting websites. When they link their merch, it’s exactly like how blogs and shit would sell merch.

Youre looking at this with glasses so rosy they’re completely blinding.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Then you should remember these days more accurately.

So should you. Remember when ads were just static banners? No, you don’t. Don’t pick a point in time that fits your bias and ignore the rest, mate. Might turn your glasses as brown as your take is shite.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

The kids are nostalgic for a time they didn’t experience!

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

There is a 0% chance you knew how to use internet back then it seems.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-3 points
*

When I was 18 I was pretty dumb, yeah. I once totally destroyed a hard drive by corrupting a file trying to make my PC background the “Anal Destruction” website logo

Young people are dumb man.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Yeah, so you missed that what OP talked about was very real. We had much more of those sites based on sharing, and they were much more at the front of the internet.

permalink
report
parent
reply

memes

!memes@lemmy.world

Create post

Community rules

1. Be civil

No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour

2. No politics

This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

3. No recent reposts

Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month

4. No bots

No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins

5. No Spam/Ads

No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.

Sister communities

Community stats

  • 13K

    Monthly active users

  • 3.5K

    Posts

  • 109K

    Comments