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it’s a swole doge vs cheems meme
on swole doge side, there are two popups: kCrash and Ubuntu apport. Both have options to see detailed logs and an optional button to send report to developers, along with options to close the popup.
accompanied is a text that reads “Here’s the information. What do you wish to do?”
on crying cheems side, there’s popup for windows and mac. windows has just a cancel button with report being sent already. mac has ignore and report button. there is no option to see logs without reporting on both. here, accompanied text reads, “let’s add this to the personally identifiable information we have on you.”
KDE’s way is the best way
I might be doing something wrong, but the crash reports themselves are damn near useless
yes, there should be a description box for sending additional inputs from the user. like what were they trying to do.
but GNU/Linux developers are already saddled with a lot of work, and I don’t mind restarting the app at all. :)
Two things irritate the shit out of me. First, the “wait while we report this to Microsoft” dialog comes up and implies its transmitting immediately, even for trivial issues, without asking for your confirmation and without indicating what, exactly, it’s sending. (I guess that’s the point of this meme. But a yes/no prompt would be nice?)
Second is that it does it for absolutely trivial things. Like, the crap point of sale software we use at work can be easily and repeatably made to go into an infinite loop state if you know how to do it, and you have to kill it via Task Manager or whatever. But then this stupid “we’re reporting this to Microsoft” dialog comes up. Oh yeah? You’re reporting it, are you? What the fuck is Microsoft going to do about it, exactly? Send a helicopter so Bill Gates himself can rappel down and bust through the skylight at the office of this two-bit POS software company, guns blazing, hack into their mainframe, and fix their code?
What a useless thing to show the user.
lol, I like your way with words. and I fully agree and share the sentiment(hence the meme).
I disliked crash reporting on windows precisely because of inability to cancel it(by the time you hit cancel, it might’ve already been sent).
nowadays, I don’t use windows at all. sometimes I’m forced to use macos, and this popup comes up. I dislike this one too since I can’t really see what it’s going to send.
on my home machine I have Debian with i3 and xfce, which hasn’t crashed a single time. and even if it does in some distant future, I’ll be more than happy to send technical info to them.
You can disable error reporting on Windows, by the way. Disable the “Windows Error Reporting” service. Either via Task Manager, or services.msc, or whatever your preferred method is.
On MacOS if you click on the “Report…” button it expands to something similar to what you see on the left.
thanks! never clicked that for fear that they’d do something similar to windows.
I’ll try it next time it comes up.
maybe there should be a third button for less confusion? or does it go against apple’s “design” principles? :p
To demonstrate I got an app to crash, this is what you see when you click on the report button. The report is longer, trying to show where the app crashed, at the bottom there’s a button to send a report to apple
looks much better than what I’d thought. thanks for sharing mate! BTW, the interface is in French, right?
I’m pretty sure this only goes to Apple, not to the actual developer.
I believe I’ve even seen devs specifically ask for copies of the reports from the crash reporter, as they wouldn’t receive them otherwise.
this doesn’t change the rest of your statement though, just afaik the recipient is different.
only once have i seen the crash reporter in windows actually do something beneficial and report back an actual fix.
Well of course they need to report your information to Microsoft, after all the application crashed on your computer and since it’s a Microsoft application it can’t be the fault of the application (also why you don’t see an error Log) so you must have been holding it wrong so they need your info to find out how you were holding it wrong.
if you want to see the logs you have eventmgr.msc which consolidates all logs in one place.
The fuck are you smoking?
Or (which is a lot more likely) it sends data so Microsoft can improve the software and fix the bug that you encountered in their software.
(Why would they want to receive crash dumps if they don’t believe to be at fault? That is just dumb logic)
If you want to see logs, you can just open the Event Viewer. It is a bit hidden because non-tech savvy people like you don’t understand it.
Sorry I thought I was exaggerating enough but once again sarcasm doesn’t come through on the internet.
I know that actual logs are produced and can be viewed and I know that there are actual crash dumps being sent that are actually used for improvement.
Whole I don’t believe in the “hide what’s happening from the user” approach I get that Microsoft isn’t actually malicious or hates their users.
Again sorry for dropping the /s
