Honestly, as long as trans women aren’t played by cis dudes that’s an improvement over the past century.
Poont is, I don’t really care who plays who, I’m okay with a trans woman being played by a cis dude, and a cis dude being played by a trans woman, it should not matter as long as their acting is good.
What you are missing is a century plus of the thumb on the scale (much longer if you go back to Shakespeare where only men could play women). The world doesn’t suddenly become a complete meritocracy overnight (if ever), and striving for equal representation in the arts is very important.
Just look at how children of color have been inspired since Disney decided to start making protagonists that look like them and have similar backgrounds.
Why can’t they be? Your issue is when it’s mocking trans women, but anyone could play the role and then mock trans women.
Are you aware that trans women are not physiologically the same as cis men? (If you weren’t, now you are.)
Now do you understand how casting a cis man in the role of a trans woman will emphasize masculine features of the character, and that it plays into a narrative that trans women are men? (if you weren’t, now you are.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Danish_Girl_(film)
As long as they don’t go all Little Britain on it, I don’t see it as a problem.
Okay, so, addendum: if the story is set in a time or place where the character wouldn’t have access to hormones, then it’s fine.
There’s also a case to be made that if you have sufficient fuckery with CGI, you could make a story during an ongoing medical transition.
What I’m talking about is throwing a wig and some powder on some lantern jawed dude and calling it a day.
You do realize that these aren’t the same people, right? They have like polar opposite beliefs on the subject.
Anyway, this kid was “banned” from playing the role, they didn’t lose the audition.
Same website, but still you are right that banning someone from performing based on anything outside their performance is outrageous.
So your suggestion is that the consistent view would to only allow trans kids to play trans roles? So a trans boy (assigned female at birth), who is literally indistinguishable from her male peers, is just shit out of luck? And trans girls are going to have to wait til their (obviously very open) school decides to do Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Fuck off and let kids be kids. Weird fuckers obsessed with children’s’ genitals.
Their point isn’t about this outcry, it’s about the reaction to the outcry.
Their anology is, if it’s wrong for a cis person to play a trans character then it’s also wrong for a trans person to play a cis character. They’re trying to criticize leftist hypocrisy.
Now, I think it was a minority of pro-trans people that criticize a cis person playing a trans character. But I guess their criticism of that minority is fair.
They do know that acting is pretending to be someone other than yourself, right?
If Jared Leto (🤮) can win an Oscar for portraying a trans woman despite not being trans, then there is absolutely no reason that a trans boy can’t play the male lead of a school play. It’s acting.
Are you talking about Dallas buyers club or something else? I’m neither hip nor with it.
This is Texas we’re talking about. You’re attempting to apply logic where there is none.
Texas is the only state which doesn’t have consistent power. Like, something no other state has a problem with.
They didn’t want a tenor. What can they say?
I’m not American, but I’m in one of the many countries whose political narrative is shaped by the global political and cultural haegemon.
This specific story is of course irrelevant, but the broader indication that a significant portion of their population is eager to vote in a barely masked group of genocidal fascists, who have spent a couple of decades consolidating power seems globally relevant to me.
Shortly after Hightower’s casting, however, the student was replaced when the school’s principal, Scott Johnston, called Hightower’s father about a new gender policy for student performers.
“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.
This sounds like the kind of thing a school would do under the Nazis. I wonder why that is.
Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth. Is just the next step, the Nazi’s have been coming for us but they weren’t you so you didn’t stand up.
Over the last two years it was about fictional characters being played by people not of the characters race, and voice actors started losing work because they weren’t the same race as the characters being voiced.
Before that it was wrong coloured fictional live action princesses.
Before that it was wrong coloured actors using disguises and make-up.
Before that it was black-face.
And everyone thought, I’m not racist maybe that should be wrong! And now you’re racist, sexist, bigoted, for daring to have the admiration and respect to want to imitate ‘those people’. This is part of the culture war, they want to make sure you stay within your lines, on your rung, and in your place.
FIRST THEY CAME
By Martin Niemöller
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.
Not quite sure if I’m reading you right, but I’d say there’s a relevant difference between those examples, like recommending white people don’t act in blackface, which are about respecting the cultural sensitivities of a traditionally oppressed group, and those, like prohibiting trans kids from acting roles of their own gender, which are about enhancing the oppression of a traditionally oppressed group.
Yeah, I really don’t think enough people realize this shit leads to “women can’t wear pants,” (would fit the statutes they pass to ban drag) which inevitably rolls back nearly all progress we’ve made in the past century regarding women in the workplace.
Or gay and trans people not being allowed to portray men and women, or keep straight people from portraying gay or trans people.
I bet if you asked him if he was a Bob’s Burgers fan, he’d say yes and not be bothered at all that two of the lead female characters are played by men.
LGBT isn’t a choice and covering their eyes won’t change their sexual orientation.
But, besides that point, how the fuck is it okay to insulate your kid from other cultures? That’s not healthy at all. Eating ramen wasn’t part of my family’s culture growing up, either, but I don’t go around trying to prevent children from learning about Japanese food.
Ah yes, not hateful or afraid of LGBTQ people you just don’t want them to exist in public where you can see and talk about “exposure” like you’re talking about a disease. Can’t say I am fond of people talking about their own kids like chattel property where their parents decide every single interaction they have and shape their entire experience as though if they can just keep them “pure” of influence they will grow up to be good little carbon copies of their parents who will do exactly what they are told when they are adults. Seems like a good way to put a kid in therapy and for you to end up in a senior home to me.
You want to teach your kid that the gays will burn, fine, the kids still got to learn how to be at least tolerant and share the space in society and learning to get along is kindergarten stuff. Training up little terrors who will flip the fuck out if they ever see two men holding hands while buying IKEA furniture is doing society at large a disservice. Also these are fucking high schoolers, do you really think you need to wrap them in cotton wool and give them safety sissors? I am pretty sure they would light you on fire for trying.
You mean they do hate it but want to claim respectability points by gesturing to “muh kultor!”
Queer folks are in every culture because they literally just happen everywhere. It ain’t up to some badnik lowdowns to decide it ain’t in their culture because it sure is when they’re kicking little johny on the street for not wanting to be called jessy anymore.
“Our culture” (mostly western European) does not care if men play women (or vice-versa) in a play. If anything, like other have mentioned, in condones it. Stop acting like what you believe is the arbiter of culture. What you believe is nothing and meaningless, and a minority in our society.
Even if you were correct (which you absolutely are not), it wouldn’t matter because we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.
Also how that spits in the face of theatrical performances dating at least back to Shakespeare’s time, if not further.
I never studied that stuff, but I did date a drama major back in the day.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3206851
It goes back to the ancient Greeks, at least.
They just don’t care, as long as they are hurting someone, they are happy.
“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.
These people are so fucking clueless. Men playing women in theatre is literally as old as theatre because women literally weren’t allowed to.
What the fuck?
“Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.
When I was in school, they literally didn’t have enough students who were good enough to act, so there was so much gender bending. What garbage
During shakespeares time, they did not allow female actors, so all women on stage were played by men.
Shakespeare had men acting in skirts and dresses. Juliet of Romeo and Juliet, a 14 year old girl was played by a man. The kissing between the Capulet heiress and the Montague boy were two men smooching on stage.
Repugnicans are a plague on both your houses (of Parliament)!
@Potatos_are_not_friends @floofloof Um, Shakespeare.
