92 points

$200 to play a console game on a different screen only within the same network is insane. You could spend $100 more and get a full blown handheld console. This is fucking stupid, Sony.

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Yeah, it’s the price that bothers me the most about this. For the same amount, you can get a whole Switch Lite.

And I’m still salty about how they treated the Vita. This is what we get as the first handheld successor to the Vita? And the Vita didn’t cost much more.

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8 points

Yeah Sony is smoking some good shit these days thinking people will buy this

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1 point

Switch lite is a much smaller screen and also 720 instead of 1080p. So yes, you could spend the same to get a switch lite, but if you don’t plan on buying Nintendo games, why on earth would you? The controller is nowhere near comparable to a ps5 controller and all other aspects of gaming around the house would also be worse.

Buying a PS5 controller is like $80, so at this point you’d be spending another $120 for the nice screen and big battery.

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6 points

You could likely get it to work outside of your network using a VPN, maybe.

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-28 points

What are you buying for $300? Steam deck is about as cheap as you can get and that’s for $360. It’s also heavier, smaller screen, has a lower quality screen, and will run out of battery quicker.

So if you don’t do pc gaming, why on earth would you want to spend closer to double the price?

You know why you think it’s a stupid product? You either live alone or you still live with mom and dad and have a ps5 in your bedroom. This product isn’t for you, and you’re an idiot for thinking if it’s not something little ol you would want, than no one else must have a use for it, either.

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This feels like too much emotion for the subject matter.

Edit: removed an errant “a” that made the sentence read as if Mario wrote it.

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Ironically, it’d make more sense if you lived with mom and dad, you play ps5 while they watch whatever they watch all in the same room

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Intelligence check: Critical fail. A switch is $220 used and can be played on the couch and also on someone else’s couch. Nice projection about living with mom and dad, it cracks me up when people accuse strangers on the internet of things. Proud homeowner of 6 years here, dipshit. Remember the crowd you’re berating on Lemmy, we tend to skew older than those on other cesspits you likely frequent

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-25 points

Ah. So you don’t deny you live alone. Just deny living with mom and dad. My point still stands then .

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11 points

Oh I don’t know maybe you want to actually game portable and not just enjoy fake portability?

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-6 points

Maybe you just want to play your ps5 games next to your spouse while they watch TV.

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69 points

This thing is gonna flop hard.

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15 points

Portal’s not so bad if you’re happy with just your PlayStation library and simply want something for your bedside stand.

I currently use a retroid pocket 3+ for almost only that purpose, and let me tell you, an 8 inch, 1080p screen + a full dualsense in my hands at night for just $200 seems like a really nice upgrade even if it means leaving my emulators on a different device.

(Too bad for Sony I’ll personally be spending a lot more to have a Steam Deck OLED though) (teehee)

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I have a Steam Deck and I don’t even own a PS5, so I’m probably way outside of the market for the Portal…

But I’m really finding it hard imagine this device finding a broad audience, since even in a hypothetical best case we’re talking about a subset of a subset of PS5 owners. From what I understand the new PSVR sold pretty badly despite being a pretty solid piece of VR hardware, this feels like a very niche and underwhelming piece of hardware and so I really can’t imagine it performing any better.

Someone will buy a PS Portal, and hopefully they like it, but when the smoke clears I don’t see it being a big hit.

The Steam Deck OLED on the other hand, I suspect will sell out fast. It seems like there is a pretty big chunk of people who were interested in the first gen Steam Deck but opted for the wait and see approach, and I can imagine a lot of those people jumping on the Steam Deck OLED now that they know the device has lasting power. Personally I probably can’t justify the cost of upgrading from the LCD model right now, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want to…

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I’ll tell you a secret: if you have a steam deck, you have a Playstation portal as well. I beat days gone to platinum on steam deck… By streaming if from a ps4.

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Yeah, I definitely agree that’s it’s targeting a niche within a subset. I think we’re coming from completely opposite camps, though. I’ve never had, nor was ever interested in owning a gaming PC. I have some Apple devices for work, a PS5 (and switch) for gaming, and a cheap little android handheld for retro titles -which coincidentally I use to remote play my PS5 from bed almost every night.

For me, adding yet another platform to my ecosystem is kind of annoying, particularly with all the tweaking, tinkering and menuing I won’t be able to avoid. But a Deck also means I’ll be able to play older windows stuff that either never came to PS or were lost in the PS3 library, and I’ll be able to travel with it better, so it’s kind of worth it. Plus it’ll look really nice when remote-playing my PS5.

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1 point

Tv with the ps5 is downstairs, wife wants me to hang out and not just watch me play games, I want to game. I grab the portal and sit on the couch next to wife while she watches tv. We all win.

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4 points

The thing is there are a lot of devices that you can use to stream from you PS5 and also have other functionalities. Like playing games natively, or emulators.

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2 points

Yeah you’re right, and that’s a big sticking point of the Portal, but I think it’s worth noting that if you want a device that does those things with a screen as large as the Portal’s, you’ll probably be paying way more than $200. And that’s before having anything with the kind of haptic tech as the dualsense.

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I dont have a TV in my bedroom, but couldn’t I set up a system for the same price where I can play all my console or PC games in bed on a full 30+ inch TV if I wanted to? For the same price that is?. It might be an interesting purchase if someone else wanted to be able to use the TV, but if I was buying one for me to play games on while in bed then my partner can gtfo lol. Though I suppose some people might want a more compact solution.

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1 point

Yeah. I imagine with some savvy shopping you could probably get a 30ish inch TV and a mini PC or Android device to use exclusively for game streaming at a pretty affordable price.

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58 points

I still just do not understand who this is for. It seems extremely niche. I can’t see this selling all that well.

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37 points

Hi. It’s me. I’m the one it’s for.

I have a den where my PlayStation is hooked up to the nice TV. I don’t necessarily always want to be down there to play games, for any number of reasons. Sometimes my wife wants to watch TV while I want to play a game, and this allows us to be in the same room and do that.

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49 points

I’m in the same boat with my PC. Bought a steam deck for the same reason.

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40 points

Yeah, why wouldn’t you spend $100 more and get a Switch or Steam Deck that can be played fully standalone, anywhere? This product is whack

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6 points

This is really my biggest issue with the device.

Yes, there’s a desire to game away from the sofa, which is why Steam Deck and Nvidia or even a phone with the PS app are all available. I can’t see the need to buy something like when there are better alternatives available for cheaper or even for free.

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11 points

Remote play runs on just about anything though, you could use a phone, chromecast, computer. I bought a $15 phone mount that hooks onto my PS5 controller and it’s essentially this device, but with the added benefit of using a device with more than one use.

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-11 points

All the people giving this product shit are single.

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5 points

I’m not single, and this product is shit, the PSP/Vita legacy deserved better.

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5 points

What a bizarre take

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8 points

I have an actual use case for this. It is kind of niche. I don’t personally have kids but I have friends over a lot to watch sports or BBQ or whatever. I have a PS5, a respectable desktop, and a Steam Deck. I prefer the portable option of the Steam Deck or, at worst, streaming to it. I don’t know why but that’s just what I enjoy.

As the kids have gotten older, they really want to play the PS5. But if the football game is on, they cannot have the TV. So, I was using Chiaki to let them stream from the PS5. So, all my PS5 game saves are basically fucked. The younger ones will use up any and all ammo or other in-game supplies and the older ones will make progress and I’ll just be lost next login. But the worst thing is when they exit Chiaki and play my PC version of a game. I specifically tell them not to do that but they aren’t my kids so I can’t backhand them.

So, now we have a solution. A thing like the Steam Deck that is limited to only fucking up PS5 game saves so if I really want to enjoy a game, I can get the Steam version. The kids can go hog wild on the PS5. They can get sticky shit on the PlayStation Portal — and they will if there is one ounce of sugar within 5 miles. My PC is in my office and my Steam Deck is going to be locked up. I’ll actually be able to enjoy a game again. And for only $200.

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7 points

Dude, the kids must’ve love you. You basically bought a PS5, a PS Portal and a bunch of PS5 games (which usually more expensive than their PC counterparts) and perhaps a PS plus subscription just for your friends’ kids.

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6 points

I’m definitely the proverbial uncle who works for Nintendo to them. But in reality, I’m a boring, non-Nintendo software engineer who just didn’t want to have kids. I’m not rolling in dough but I could probably buy every video game system ever released and it’d be less than parents spend on day care. A lot of strollers cost more than a PS5.

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2 points

It’s for people that both own a PS5 and liked the Wii U.

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2 points

Nothing like basing your idea on Nintendo’s worst selling console for ultimate success.

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It’s not for the kid who has his ps5 in his room, or the single adult who has full access all the time to sit on his living room couch eating cheerios in his underwear. It’s also not for the single guy making his living by reviewing video game junk that comes out in hopes of being paid for what he writes.

It’s for families where mom or dad or sibling wants the TV for other things. So you can go back to the bedroom or den or garage or wherever else that isn’t blasting the 20th straight episode of my little pony and get some game time in.

It’s 200 bucks. Ok. I have a game laptop and a steam deck. I never use the laptop anymore. The steam deck is too quick and easy. Streaming to cell phones gets you a smaller screen, smaller battery, and need to spend $100 on a gaming controller anyhow. You also can’t start up the ps5 and move things along so quickly. Also with phones streaming like this, the gyro isn’t as precise/great to use compared to a ps5 controller. I assume this screen/controller Playstation device works as well as their ps5 controller does.

So yeah. It’s $200 for something that you may be able to do almost as well for free…but it’s not free. It’s based on if you already own hundreds of dollars worth of other things, m9st of which wouldn’t work quite as well.

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0 points

Steam deck is too quick and easy? You want it to be more difficult?

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2 points

What if someone has no PC games…? They gotta spend even more money to replace the games…

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0 points

I think you need to re-read what I wrote. You aren’t interpreting it well.

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28 points

Sony is just so bad at this whole portable gaming thing, aren’t they?

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11 points

Classic case of design by committee.

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4 points

Best handheld of all time IMHO

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21 points

Not only does the functionality seem almost completely unnecessary except for a limited use case here and there, but this thing is truly ugly. Who designed this travesty? How would you even store this bumpy hunk of plastic?

Sony used to have some of the most elegant and clean hardware aesthetics. Their designs were genuinely beautiful, simple, and practical. They used to ooze premium luxury. Now we get a screen with a sawed off controller stuck to the sides? Disappointing.

You know what? I take it back. The PS5 is shaped like a modem from 1999, it deserves this ugly step-cousin.

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But it does look like more comfortable to hold than psvita. My hands hurt if I play my vita without a grip, which essentially turns the vita into a boomerang.

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2 points

I have a PS5 and I just do remote play to my Android tablet with the ps controller connected via Bluetooth and for most games it’s acceptable; there is a little latency so it wouldn’t be good enough for fps games however. I wouldn’t buy this product but if the latency is improved I could see several of my friends getting one of these.

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I refused to buy a PS5 because of how ugly it is. My friends got one, but I chose an XB1X because of how much better it goes with my house.

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you chose a gaming platform because of how it looks?

we are not the same

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