too bad the water source isnt visible so we could label it ‘united states funding’
“Comiting”
What’s frustrating to me as a person who’s generally against violence is that Israel has a pretty elite secret police force and pretty elite special forces that they (apparently) haven’t used at all to deal with the actual perpetrators of the October 7th massacre & kidnapping.
They just started bombing thousands of civilians to kill dozens, maybe hundreds of Hamas militants.
Like, surely they could have cut the head off the Hamas Snake with surgical strike teams infiltrating Gaza, probably the West Bank, and international locations in Qatar or wherever the leadership is.
Reasonable people could conclude that Israel had to respond to Oct 7th, and that the best target would be Hamas. I can’t fathom how any reasonable people could conclude that bombing groups of people with 90% or more innocent civilians and the rest possible militants is a good response.
I can imagine that UNreasonable people might conclude that all Palestinians are guilty by association (because Hamas is their Netanyahu-supported elected government) and they’re all militants (even the babies). Or those unreasonable people might believe that Palestinians aren’t people worthy of protection.
So goddamned frustrating.
Israel could simply have not starved the people living in the Gaza strip to death over the course of decades while occasionally flicking airstrikes at them, which they were doing long before October.
I often wonder how people can forget this considering Isreal has been commiting genocide, ethnic cleansing, hate crimes since it’s inception like wtf ?
It’s actually surprising that Hamas didn’t get more votes in the election, when the other option was getting ruled by Fatah. Who would want the enemy’s puppet governing them?
I think you are overestimating the value of special forces. We kind of mythologize them with our media, but they are not action heroes. You arnt going to send them into a hostile city where Hamas is not in uniform, planned for the retaliation, had time to prepare, and expect them to come out with low casualties.
For example of what this looks like with the US, refer to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Even the US after 9-11 didn’t just send in spec ops after Osama, they went in whole hog. And that was estimated at about 4.5 million casualties all around.
It sucks, but Hamas isn’t going to start wearing uniforms and abiding by the Geneva convention any time soon.
What you’re saying is during an active war they haven’t heavily publicised what their special forces and secret agents have been doing?
I say heavily because they have mentioned various success their covert units have had, one example is them sneaking into a tunnel while everyone was busy firing rockets at Israel then taking all the secret documents revealing the location of other tunnel networks and fighters.
Of course Israel wants to find the kidnapped people and free them, of course they want to kill or capture the Hamas leaders, and of course they don’t want to kill innocent people. Those aren’t easy things in the situation they’re in.
The leader of Hamas assuming he’s back from his recent trip to Iran is at home in Doha, the local commanders are in their bases deep under hospitals, the fighters are dressed as civilians and of course get added to the civilian casualties lists - especially the teenagers fighting for Hamas…
People act like Israel is in an easy position but that really isn’t close to reality.
Same with hamas but red is pretending to represent palestine
Indeed.
But I have no hope of influencing Hamas.
My vote and political activism has some small chance of affecting Israeli policy so that’s what I’m more engaged in.
I saw somebody on TV saying “what people don’t understand is that Hamas wants civilian deaths”. Oh I get it, I get it just fine. It doesn’t change the fact that Netanyahu etc are giving them exactly exactly what they want.
Hamas doesn’t even claim to represent all of Palestine. They represent the Gaza strip which they governed legitimately after a free and fair election. They would indeed probably win in the west bank too if the collaboration government there held elections, but the Axis of Resistance is a broad coalition of groups opposing the illegal “Israeli” occupation of their land and ethnic cleansing of their people, and includes all sorts of colorful groups like the Marxist PFLP and general-nationalist Lion’s Den, as well as foreign groups like Hezbollah.
It’s just that braindead western propaganda only talks about Hamas because they’re the scariest to white people. They’re “like ISIS” as the vile Zionist pundits are quick to remind you every time they come up in the news (simply a ridiculous, childish comparison). Calling it the “Hamas-Israel war” is intentional to obscure the fact that it is the Zionist entity that is waging a war against the entire population of Palestine, and has been doing so for decades.
Well you can be both a perpetrator and a victim
You stop qualifying for sympathy when you as the victim decide to escalate in the name of revenge
I’m admittedly not well-versed in international affairs, but hasn’t Israel been waiting for an opportunity to do exactly what they’re doing for decades? We’ve armed them to the tooth, and that has always been at least a little concerning because we understood this to be their disposition. I fully expected some light genocide after hearing about the Hamas attack. It’s looking like they might exceed expectations too. I’m a little shocked at our indifference.
