At this point I think we can safely conclude that Hamas doesn’t care if Israel collectively punishes Palestinian civilians any more than Israel cares when Hamas lobs rockets at Israeli civilians - that is, they don’t like it when it happens, but it happening will in no way persuade them to stop.
Logically, it’s an impasse, the consequence of which will be the eventual extermination of the Palestinians- an outcome that Bibi seems not to be bothered by at all
What, do they think the doctors are Hamas or something?
theres offices and tunnels under a lot of the hospitals. either people arent paying attention or their purposely ignoring facts
either people arent paying attention or their purposely ignoring facts
The third option is that Israel is lying.
I have been paying attention to the IDF propaganda that all get debunked within a day. Are you talking about the elevator shaft in a building 200meter from one hospital?
Hamas had accepted to send an independent journalist to check out the hospital and this was refused by israel. That alone tells you all you need to know
Surely the really bad 3D rendering video we were provided by the Israeli authorities is proof enough and we should implicitly believe their “totally independent, trust me I wouldn’t lie to you” assessments???!!!
Right?!
Correct. And that’s not a joke they legit claim doctors and paramedics are hamas.
Israel defines Hamas as the Gazan government. That’s why they recently blew up a government building.
To date, the Hamas government is only economically bonded with the Ramallah-based Palestinian National Authority, performing the governing over the Gaza Strip independently.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_of_the_Gaza_Strip
Relevant bit of information:
“Israeli army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner told CNN the hospital and compound were for Hamas “a central hub of their operations, perhaps even the beating heart and maybe even a centre of gravity.”
The U.S. said on Tuesday that its own intelligence supported Israel’s conclusions.”
Just to be clear: your reasoning here is that if a murderer hides out in an American hospital its totally legitimate just to blow it the fuck up to get at him, right?
This has nothing to do with hamas. In general, hamas is either a terrorist organization, or a military resistant. In both case, you don’t expect anything from them. Most of the resistant groups or terrorist organization are not expected to tell the truth or be expected to respect international laws.
Isreal, is “recognized” state and government by many countries, they have trades and embassies around the world and part of the United Nations.
When they work so hard to show media “proofs” of a calender posted on the wall, a few guns in the MRI machine rooms, and no sign of it being the center of gravity and they get caught lying by their own videos they published then maybe we should consider them a terrorist organization as well and treat them like that. Maybe we should sanction any one sending them money.
If they are that confident they should show the world evidence, which regardless of what they found, doesn’t mean they can commit war crimes.
centre of gravity
For those who are confused by what “Centre of gravity” means in this context:
Center of gravity (COG) is a military term that refers to the source of strength, balance, or stability necessary for a military force to maintain operation.
Perhaps 1 baby step ahead of just blowing the hospital to pieces. But I’m going to watch for if they find even some of which they claimed was there.
Already located weapons and killed Hamas combatants in firefights inside the hospital grounds.
I suspect the main goal is to forcefully evacuate any remaining able bodied civilians and begin moving patients and medical staff south. Israeli reports already state that incubators were brought in.
I sure hope it’s safe wherever the patients and medical staff are being evacuated…
Israeli troops found weapons and “terror infrastructure” during an ongoing raid within Al-Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip, a senior military official said on Wednesday.
He did not spell out what had been found or provide any visual evidence, but said this would be presented later.
Yeah. So we’re going to have to take the IDF’s word for it on the weapons part.
Probably to hospitals in the southern Gaza strip. Not as safe as evacuating them to Ashkelon, but it’s highly doubtful Israel will allow any Gazans to seek medical care inside Israel for a few years at least.
I haven’t seen any image or video evidence of weapons yet. That will likely show up in a few days. The talking heads sometimes let things slip past the censors, and they’ve been hinting at something big. Not hostages big, but extremely clear evidence. They are saying that they’ve located tunnel entrances, including several that Hamas attempted to seal up and hide in the last few days.
