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But what’s their opinion on pornography/masturbation?

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increases existential risk, obviously

now, child brides

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What I thought about child marriage as a cause area, and how I’ve changed my mind

lol

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A long time ago somebody sneeringly called themotte an ‘empathy removal centre’, and it is good to see EA is picking up the torch.

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Lmao I thought this was satire

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The opening line is… certainly a phrase.

I have been working on a research project into the scale, tractability and neglectedness of child marriage.

Later:

Some studies even showed that child marriage was associated with more positive outcomes, such as higher contraceptive use

Ummmmmmmmmm

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The fucking table really got me, like, what an absolutely mad idiot.

And then I see this reply.

I notice you have a table collecting and assessing possible harms from the practice but no similar table collecting and assessing possible benefits. In deciding whether to fight against some practice shouldn’t we want to figure out the net effect - benefits minus costs - rather than just costs?

Given how widespread the social phenomenon is, surely there must be some benefits?

( Something something Chesterton’s fence…)

Near as I can tell, the people who think it’s terrible are in large part motivated by largely-false quasi-Mathusian claims related to “overpopulation”. If we set those aside, younger brides tend to have more kids; all else being equal we should assume those kids have lots of extra QALYs (that wouldn’t otherwise exist) and also presumably make their parents happy. Are those married as children happier adults on average than those not? How do we balance a claimed higher risk of physical abuse against, say, a lower risk of ending up childless or alone or financially insecure?

Food for thought.

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Near as I can tell, the people who think it’s terrible are in large part motivated by largely-false quasi-Mathusian claims related to “overpopulation”.

somehow this person has gone their entire life without ever hearing about the concept of “conesnt”

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( Something something Chesterton’s fence…)

Y’know I wasn’t expecting to see any award-winning arguments when I clicked the link to see the ‘full’ version of their post, but I’m still a little surprised that literally all the reason they gave was “something something Chesterton’s fence.” That’s just pathetic.

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!!!

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One of the least studied rationalist tics is “as far as I can tell, most people who believe X is bad think so because Y reason which nobody has ever brought up, but which I find easy to disregard”

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EA is just logocentrics trying to shoehorn their 8-bit thinking on to an analog world. The whole endeavor is word-games because the defining “effective” is critical, while doing altruism is incidental.

suppose “effective” means maximizing the freedom, contributions, and life outcomes of women. All of a sudden, the facts&logic point to the opposite conclusion. Funny that.

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Gee, one might almost think that EA was hostile to women.

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Please forgive me if I fail to address it in a sufficiently sensitive way, and know that this was not my intention. There is, of course, so much more to say about this, but I wanted to try and keep the post relatively short.

(Proceeds to write 5000 word insensitive essay anyway)

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This is the push/pull abusive dynamic: feign sensitivity, deny negative implications as not their intention, but demand positive feedback for dangerous takes. EA believes that not being wrong or held accountable is the most important optimization, so all their positions come from having absolutely no stake in the real world consequences.

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

[Especially don’t debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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