I think the title speaks for itself.

EDIT: UPDATE: So apparently the former r/jailbait mod that is The CEO purged the sub’s mods and forced the sub to re-reopen under the old rules.

Mission failed! We’ll get them next time!

EDIT2: aaaaaaand the sub’s archived and no longer accepts new submissions. The garbage fire keeps going…

22 points

Reddit is only valuable because of the content users provide. If you don’t post valuable content, the site is worthless. Reddit can force subs back open, but they can’t force users to submit the content that makes the site valuable to begin with.

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This is what Reddit forgot. They don’t implicitly provide any value, it’s the community that provides the value. Reddit is just the place where people happen to post.

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So…do we know if Reddit iself is behind flooding subs with comments about how mods are being jerks and hurting the communities pointlessly? It’s weird, the same kinds of comments in every sub I’m in. Also lots of comments about how Lemmy is too complicated. 😆

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Given how much they have lied about already and the crap Huffman has pulled in the past, I would not doubt it in the least. I am sure they are doing all sorts of mind-games crap like this to try and keep users from fleeing. They have to be freaking out right about now.

All I can do as a user is take my content and time elsewhere. Which is why I’m here. Hoping that like has happened on mastodon, we will slowly move past the “Reddit news” phase and just transition into people contributing to communities and building apps for Lemmy/Kbin.

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I used to go to the /r/nfl free talk threads and the day after it opened HUNDREDS of new accounts were posting talking about how the mods were pussies and blah blah.

It felt fucking surreal like 2016 Russian bot astroturfing all over again.

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There have been screenshots of pro-admin/anti-mod comments that were clearly written by chatGPT (e.g. including the “as a neural network” or whatever boilerplate). They could be fakes or false flags, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were real.

The “Lemmy is too complicated” part I can believe is organic from normie Redittors, though.

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I’ve suspected Reddit’s ownership of running bots on their own platform for awhile. This feels like confirmation, to me.

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i feel like speez is the ultimate reddit troll… a weird embodiment of the negative aspects of the spirit of the site.

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Not just that but moderation curating that content prevents the site from enshittifying and degenerating into sludge.

People complain about mods but without mods you get essentially a forum where every poster is ChatGPT.

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maybe more subs should fight with this. it is kinda funny. i would love to see reddit flop from this.

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You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

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It’s a porn sub and it’s more inclusive now, unless Reddit wants to keep discriminating against sex workers.

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This is epic level malicious compliance. Best way to run a SFW sub into the ground is opening it up to NSFW content.

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TIL reddit cant run ads on NSFW Subreddits!

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Realistically nothing is stopping them from doing so it’s their own policies which is kinda dumb af. All they’d have to do is prevent ads from brands that don’t want to be associated with it from showing there.

The fact they don’t show advertisements on NSFW subs/posts just tells me their advertising tools and targeting are absolutely sub par.

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As a professional marketer and advertiser, that’s not correct.

What keeps them from doing it is that most high-dollar advertisers don’t want their ads/brand appearing next to NSFW content.

It’s probably more difficult for Reddit to filter out NSFW ad impressions rather than just let ads appear anywhere. But advertisers demand it, so they have to do it to get the dollars.

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Did that include the reddit app? If someone had their subscription set up with only NSFW subs would that not display ads on their home feed?

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that actually makes a lot of sense when i think of the banning of NSFW over API, damn, get that money spez

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“The one trick that all advertisers hate!” LOL

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Lmao. Reddit had a chance to reverse this crap. Now it’s too late. Can’t wait for their IPO.

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I just wish they cared. This is a blip for them sadly

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Actually they do care. These 2 does not go together:

  • We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor. and this one will pass as well.
  • Force-reopening subreddits, removing moderators.

(Un)fortunatelly they still can’t get over their beliefs that Reddit is still good old Reddit and that they can proceed as public trading company. I am honestly interested what is the tipping point for them until they (attempt to) stop their bullshit… 😂

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They are clearly itching to ban NSFW content site wide (paid API doesn’t even include NSFW posts). This sort of thing might make a good excuse.

But at the same time, who is going to enforce that? The unpaid moderators you just fired? LOL

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A lot of their users would leave.

It was why spez championed subs like /r/jailbait staying open until they got bad publicity in the mainstream press.

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Why does reddit consolidating all nsfw content delivery under its website and first party app suggest they want to stop NSFW content?

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They don’t want to deal with the legal implications of it. Spez has said ad nauseum that they don’t want to risk 3PA providing NSFW content to users that Reddit is not allowed to serve because they don’t want to be held responsible for that. Especially now that some US states are requiring actual ID verification for 18+ content.

While Spez is a lying weasel, I don’t doubt that Reddit is worried about NSFW-related lawsuits, bad press, and ad revenue impact.

And, the next step after having control of the content is to further restrict it.

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i would say that nsfw content as well as grey legal content was a big part of reddits appeal. Frome homemade porn to piracy and dnm how tos up to documentation of current wars filled with gore.

It felt like users were relatively well considered self responsible adults, unlike on other platforms.

Losing that is another loss of value. all the while nsfw bans are difficult to enforce without enough moderators.

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Reddit could require some kind of verification on the account level and still allow 3rd party apps to work though. Seems like an excuse or they are just being lazy.

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