No one tells you when you buy the car all of the shit you are agreeing to. This needs to be changed.
This car doesn’t let you drive over 80mph. It reads speed limit signs and has a database apparently. The owners manual says it will provide that data to law enforcement.
This is insane. There needs to be awareness of this so people can, at the very least, know to ask before they buy. As it stands no one even knows this shit until they sign the papers and look at the owners manual.
How does Ford benefit from this? Why add this “feature?” … To prevent adolescent teens from driving over 80mph…? Nanny car 2024? Buy your teen this car and feel assured they won’t drive over 80mph? “Don’t worry we will alert the cops and even call you when they get arrested!”
I bet insurance companies would pay out the nose for this data. Hike up the rates for drivers with “risky” habits.
I wonder if insurance companies would offer a lower rate for drivers with NannyCar features.
We monitor everything that you do, and limit your ability to cost us money:
No loud music, must use turn signals, no driving over 80mph, we track your movements, must wear seatbelt, pay tolls, have approved air pressure, no loud kids in the car, no distractions like hands on phones … stop at stop sign for 60 seconds. We can stop the car if we suspect is is being carjacked or involved in bank heist.
Or a more nefarious motivation…Ford … we monitor the music you like, where you stop to eat, which commercials you don’t skip, where you buy gas, … and sell the information to advertisers…
This is how it’ll happen. Opt in. They’ll charge more by default and then you can share your safe driving with them to lower your premium. It’s often how it currently works with odometer readings, except not through a smart car, just a quick dash reading.
But if it has all those limitations, why would anyone buy it?
No one is reporting this, ford certainly isn’t putting it in their press material, and no one gets a copy of the manual to review before purchasing a vehicle.
To be fair, you can look it up on their website The fact that this is something you have to consider now when buying a car is ridiculous though…
No one reads and understands it before they buy, but it’s out there
People that don’t actually know this or just accept it. Look at how many people use ring cameras and you can tell them that Amazon will hand the video footage to law enforcement , and they will say “oh yeah I have nothing to hide” or “Oh yeah but the camera is cheap”
The “nothing to hide” folks will probably change their tune when there’s a massive data breach and now the darkweb knows what time your house is empty
Also all these things he talks about you can just turn off lol.
Don’t want the car to send data? Turn it off…
Don’t want the speed limiter to be on? Turn it off…
Edit: lol why am I being downvoted? I’m right. Both are in car settings you can just turn off. Connectivity and speed limiter + traffic sign recognition.
Can you point to evidence that you can disable the speed limiter? I couldn’t find anything except in a Mustang forum that said the only way was through a hardware tuner.
Have you actually verified whether you can turn this connectivity off? I know on other new cars it’s embedded in the electronics with no on/off button.
And how do we know the dealer isn’t going to turn it back on after every service visit?
Yeah, it’s a setting in the car infotainment system under connectivity.
You have like 4 options. One for each of the data types (so you can turn off cellular data but leave on GPS), and one to turn it all off. When it’s all off there is no data being sent to or from the car at all.
Love how lemmy just downvotes cause they don’t like that answer.
Big if true. …so much for track day, I guess?
I figured this day would eventually arrive where your car snitches on you to the cops.
I suppose they could track your speed a millisecond at a time and you pay a fine based on speed over limit times distance traveled and it is then the charges are sent every month like a bill. You can appear in court but will always lose of course. Of course they’re capturing the drivers face at all times and sending that to the po po to make sure they charge the right person.
I guess I’m never buying another new car. Fuck everything, at this point. I’m so done.
so much for track day, I guess?
Stuff like this is likely planned in advance with sports and super cars. Since this technology has existed for a while. Assuming you visit a recognized track, wherever it may be, the limiter simply turns off. For example, the 2009 and later Nissan GTR is sold in Japan with a 112 MPH artificial limiter in the software. The limit is there by law. GPS / Sat Nav is standard on this car. If you visit say, Fuji or Laguna Seca, the car knows where it is and turns the limiter off. Allowing you to achieve the ~200 MPH top speed. Examples sold for other markets such as US and EU need not worry. The redline in 6th gear is your physical limiter.
On a slightly related note, clever people have figured out ways around limiters. Such as tricking the GPS or modifying the ECU. Unfortunately, these days it gets harder to do this as manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, VW, and a few others, are encrypting the communication network physically located in the car. It’s not the traditional low and high speed CAN Bus. FlexRay is becoming more commonplace unfortunately.
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