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Colorado used to disallow collection of rainwater too because people further down the line supposedly had the rights to that water.

You’re now allowed something like 2 - 30 gallon barrels to collect it here now.

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Late stage capitalism: where they decide someone owns the fucking rain.

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Water rights are the opposite of late stage capitalism. It’s silly to enforce when we’re talking about a residential rain barrel, but when we’re talking on much larger scales is critical. When creeks are drying up because landowners are building catchment ponds, water rights start to look pretty good.

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It’s because Colorado water law is based on ‘prior appropriations’.

Colorado was settled around mining and ranching, both of which can be water-intensive. It’s also a fairly dry place. Water rights have been serious business for a long time.

So the rule was that the first person there had the right to start using river water for their mine. Then, if a second person starts a mine upstream, they had the right to use river water only inasmuch as it didn’t impact the prior downstream mine. If there was a drought, the upstream mine had to use less water so the earlier mine wasn’t impacted. Rain barrels were prohibited because that water “belonged” to some downstream rights holder, just as using the water from a stream might be prohibited because it belongs to a downstream rights holder.

This isn’t really late-stage capitalism. The law in Colorado goes back to some court cases in the 1870s and 1880s.

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It’s unfortunate that you have like four up votes for explaining the actual History behind it but the guy who just thinks it’s an issue that popped up ten years ago has dozens.

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Yeah, but Colorado isn’t a desert where people struggle for clean water in the best of times…

And I’m pretty sure the only thing downstream of Gaza is the ocean

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Doesn’t Gaza rain dump into th ocean? It’s not like Israel is using the runoff.

I call gencide shenanigans.

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It’s kind of late-stage capitalism since Marx declared capitalism to be in its late stage back in 1860

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But muh narrative

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Well, I mean, it isn’t entirely illogical… If I lived somewhere that always got approximately the same amount of water year over year but then suddenly my neighbor started straight up “stealing it all” straight out of the sky I might would be pissed too.

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Sometimes you have to think about broad impact when developing policy. Sure, laws against rain collection seem draconian on the individual scale, but if a large percentage of the population collected rainwater, reservoirs and water tables can be seriously affected. Not saying this specific Israeli action is justified, but there are valid limitations on water collection put in place to ensure everyone has access.

It would be substantially worse if there were no such limitations in place, and whoever owned the land that drained into communal reservoirs could privately control the water supply of a region.

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It would be substantially worse if there were no such limitations in place, and whoever owned the land that drained into communal reservoirs could privately control the water supply of a region.

It would be fucking Nestlé again

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“Everything I dislike is late stage capitalism, and I dislike anything I don’t understand”

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You better watch out what you use your allotted amount of air for or you may not be granted another ration next week.

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Its gods water

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Shit happened to jewish people. Israel is made up of zionists.

It’s an important distinction, which zionists want us to ignore.

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Agreed. People like Norman Finkelstein make the distinction obvious

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the frustrating nauseating dance of “please don’t think I’m racist” has gotten even older over the past month

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“They are doing the same to palestinians now” hahahha tha fuck are you talking about?

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It’s illegal or highly fined in a lot of other countries as well. (Especially during dry seasons)

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In other countries they don’t cut you off from water infrastructure either though. Context is important.

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Israel provides 13% of water. Hamas is responsible for the rest. They just build bombs with the water pipes instead.

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Hamas isn’t in power in the West Bank.

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(copied from other comment)

That’s atrocious. In your own property, no one else is going to collect it. That’s different from maing huge pipes and drainage systems over the city, just collecting what would otherwise be on your driveway or patio.

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It’s one of those things that sounds dumb at first glance, but actually has a lot of sound reasoning behind it, read up on it more if you’re interested

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7 points

Help the lazy out. What’s the sound reason?

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10 points

The earth collects the water where it eventually ends up back in the water table.

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Fuck the Israeli government 100%, but it’s illegal to collect rainwater in certain US cities, too.

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But nobody restricts your regular water supply to less than half of what is considered the bare minimum by the UN.

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But that’s not what’s highlighted in your meme.

Be angry at the right things. As long as they keep convincing us to be angry at scarecrows the status quo won’t change.

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Well it’s not like Mexico is forbidding the US from collecting.

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but it’s illegal to collect rainwater in certain US cities, too.

What do you want to tell me with that?

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It’s illegal pretty much anywhere west of the Mississippi River if I recall correctly.

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Damn what are cops going to do, confiscate my buckets? Did you know it’s possible to make a diy bucket by melting down ar-15s? You can buy people and harvested organs from the dark web so chances are you can get buckets on there too. Become ungovernable.

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Very little good about Israel these days.

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