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destroyed earlier this month by Israeli forces

I’m not surprised. Israel loves attacking civilians and their infrastructure. They are no different than Russia, but for some reason the majority of western countries support Israel.

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I’m not surprised. Israel loves attacking civilians and their infrastructure. They are no different than Russia, but for some reason the majority of western countries support Israel.

  • Israel is a modern, western democracy. Russia is an autocratic oligarchy.
  • Israel is at war for self-defense because of an attack from a hostile nation. Russia started a war to annex land.
  • Israel’s wars are existential. Russia’s wars are military adventurism.
  • Israel is a NATO ally. Opposing Russia is why NATO exists.
  • Israel has shown a lot of restraint in how it has dealt with Palestine relative to how Russia dealt with Chechnya.
  • Israel is a vital part of the tech and military industrial complexes of many western countries.

…I guess it’s a mystery why western countries treat these countries differently.

It is true that both Israel and Russia has attacked infrastructure and killed civilians. But, then again, so does every nation at war when they are valid military targets. Your statement is like saying that Dolly Parton is no different from Adolf Hitler because they were once children, but for some reason one is universally loved and the other is universally hated.

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Bullshit.

Israel has attacked it’s own institutions to protect their Prime Minister from prosecution. Including charges of voter suppression and going after political rivals. That’s not a democracy.

Israel was already committing acts of war against Gaza with the blockade and countless military adventures into Gaza for decades. To include preventing the democratically elected party from forming a government in both territories. This war started in 2006.

This not the 1970’s. There is no existential threat to Israel. Hamas and Hezbollah do not have the power to get rid of them. Syria is paralyzed. Jordan and Egypt are trading partners. Iran would get a NATO bombing campaign inside of 24 hours as a prelude to a ground invasion started from Iraq and they know it. This is not the cold war.

The existence of greater war crimes does not make Israel’s any less galling.

And finally, we can develop tech anywhere. Israel getting frozen out would hurt but it’s not anything the west would actually worry about tech wise.

There is still no evidence the hospitals were home to more than a few security guards.

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That’s not a democracy.

Government type: parliamentary democracy
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/israel/#government

A flawed or imperfect democracy is still a democracy.

Israel was already committing acts of war against Gaza with the blockade and countless military adventures into Gaza for decades.

  • You’re using that term wrong. Military adventurism is the use of military force for matters other than defending one’s homeland; Israel’s homeland was literally attacked.
  • While one can certainly cite causes for this ongoing conflict all the way back to the late 1800’s, I would argue that Palestine was defeated a long time ago but refuses to pacify and accept terms. An act of war like an embargo isn’t uncommon when one is already at war with a government that is still belligerent, launching attacks, and calling for their destruction.

There is no existential threat to Israel. Hamas and Hezbollah do not have the power to get rid of them.

Their calls for genocide should not be overlooked simply because they presently lack the means. If Israel loses this war, (although it is incredibly unlikely,) they have nowhere to retreat to. They will not exist as a country, so existential is the right word. Compare that to Russia, whose people will simply return to Russia should they lose in Ukraine.

The existence of greater war crimes does not make Israel’s any less galling.

Israel claims to have valid military targets and the high civilian death count is due to collateral damage. If true, this makes their military actions legal, not war crimes.

we can develop tech anywhere. Israel getting frozen out would hurt but it’s not anything the west would actually worry about tech wise.

No we cannot simply move tech anywhere, production requires infrastructure, which takes a lot of time and money to build, and development requires an educated population with a culture of technological entrepreneurialism and investors. Israel has all the nessicary components. They are one of the few places outside East Asia that produces advanced chips.

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This is nothing other than a genocide.

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For it to be a war both sides must have a military

Remember that massacre of civilians launched by Gaza’s government, that consisted of 5000 simultaneous rockets, a coordinated plan consisting of drones, paragliders, motorcycles, and speedboats by 3,000 armed Hamas militants? That’s their military.

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Let me guess. Also Hamas?

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Let me guess. Also Hamas?

Hezbollah. If you’re going to act incredulous and unfairly imply Israel is being duplicitous, at least keep up on the context and invent some imaginary motivations that make sense.

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I’m not crying at all, troll

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UnFaiRlY imply Israel is being duplicitous

bwahahahahaha

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Israel has been bombing Lebanon in a stated goal to destroy hezvollah, and the article makes it clear that this is a lebanon town near the Israeli border that has been clearly bombed.

What’s duplicitous in pointing out that Israel likely bombed this solar array used for pumping well water?

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What’s duplicitous in pointing out that Israel likely bombed this solar array used for pumping well water?

That wasn’t what I wrote. They seem to be implying that Israel is being duplicitous; intentionally targeting Palestinian civilian structures by saying Hamas is there when they know they are not.

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Article said it was Israel but wtf do I know

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The joke is that Israel would say the solar panels were Hamas.

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Ohh I get it

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