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Why is everything so fucked?

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Years and years of exploiting the people while giving them scapegoats for it?

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Oh shit yeah.

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But these are the exploiters

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Maybe, just maybe, the west’s political classes will realize–before its too late–that neoliberalism and funnelling the wealth of the many up to the few wasn’t such a great idea?

Ah, whom I kidding, if its a choice between democracy and less money, or fascism and more money, neoliberalism will send democracy packing.

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Looking at Germanys history, and the current behaviour of the β€œconservative” and β€œliberal” parties:

Naah, they will happily delude themselves into being able to control the fascists and help them into power, believing it would mean more power for them too.

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As long as the political class and the wealthy few have such a large overlap, it’s a great idea for them.

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It’s so sad to see how Europe is falling for these right-wing-populists who despise their voters and lie them in the face

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About a quarter of my fellow dutchies voted for him. It’s insane.

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Pass the dutchie on the left hand side

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Europe? What about the dumbfuck tanning guy with blonde wig in usa?

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We have our own Morons here that cause problems, so no need for finger pointing. And honestly we already got used to US Politics being a shitshow

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At the moment, I’m ashamed, sad, and gloomy about the future. Its a proven fact that Putin is in control of this party. Which is why this party wants to stop sending f16’s to Ukraine.

This is bad. Very very bad.

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Could you come to me and make sense of Putin controlling the party and at the same time being staunchly pro Israel and issuing things like this:

On the eastern side of Europe, a major war is raging between Russia and Ukraine after the Russian aggressor unlawfully invaded Ukraine.

Seriously, discourse here is absolutely broken.

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A Kreml connected agency inviting individuals to speeches etc. might prove that Russia tries to exert influence. The PVV’s actual party line is still grossly at odds with Russian policy. But sure, that’s part of the Deep Kremlin’s smokescreen …

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Sure. Meloni just started by taking unemployment payments away from people. Not a big deal. And I’m sure those weren’t even the people who voted for her because β€œrEfUgEeS”. Yeah, not a big deal at all. Surely this was the end of it, no further kicking of the weakest in sight.

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Well, they will undermine democracy where they can. Then they will ensure, that it gets harder and harder to vote against them and in the end your democracy ends up failed like in Hungary and Turkey. It’s the same playbook in every democratic country and people are ignoring it. But maybe you will think differently about that, when the new policies actually hit you and not only your neighbors.

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Its a proven fact that Putin is in control of this party.

When you wilfully decide to live in make-believe land you shouldn’t engage in political discourse, anyway.

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The lawmaker, who has previously been labelled a Dutch version of Donald Trump, will have to form a coalition government before he can take the reins of power.

And here we see evidence of why proportional voting systems provide a defence against populists and authoritarians by moderating extremes. Wilders is softening his xenophobic rhetoric in order to facilitate compromise. If the UK had PR, Brexit would never have happened.

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I mean, I do agree PR is better than FPTP, just for different reasons. Brexit is bad sure, but I’m not sure I’d want UKIP to have >12% of seats in parliament either.

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I’m a salty remainer who detests Farage but there’s something deeply undemocratic when a party can get 10-15% of the vote and achieve no elected parliamentary representation, while the Tories get an unassailable majority with 34% of the vote

I’ll put up with some Farage-ist mouth breathers in westminster if we actually got some democracy in return

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Exactly.

See my original comment: β€œI do agree PR is better than FPTP”.

It’s good because it’s democratic, not because it particularly favours or dis-favours fascism.

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