Three plaintiffs testified about the trauma they experienced carrying nonviable pregnancies.

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Horrible laws written mostly by men against women. Men who will never and have never been affected by what they are prohibiting.

It’s so gross and infuriating.

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Even if it did affect them through someone they knew, the people writing the laws can afford to circumvent them. Make no mistake, these people do get abortions banned or not.

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This is NOT a men vs. women issue. It’s a conservatives vs. sane people issue. Joe Biden didn’t take away abortion access and Amy Coney Barrett did.

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It’s an us vs the patriarchy problem. Which doesn’t mean the same as men vs women.

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I kinda disagree. Patriarchal laws and social norms hurt men as well. In this case, I’m sure the men in her life were negatively affected (not to the same degree of course).

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Don’t tell me what to do.

Specifically, laws written by straight, white, Republican men, for the sole purpose of gaining power over everyone who’s not straight, and everyone who’s not white, and everyone who’s not Republican, and everyone who’s not male… no matter how cruel the effects of the laws are. This is the actual Republican platform. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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Just another Monday

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Even though you’re right, I think this sentiment minimizes the horrific things the American christian right is doing.

I keep seeing multiple variations of this comment on every single lemmy post about christian conservatives. Idk if it’s like an astroturfing thing or what, but it normalizes these kind of fascist acts. We should be shocked. We should be surprised and outraged and insulted. The minute we’re not is when it becomes normal. And we know that’s dangerous af because we’re already watching it happen.

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I read a story about an AI that was designed to save the world by telling humans what to do. The AI’s sentience was powered by taking in human souls. One of the AI’s moral directives was to feel empathy for any person it hurt. Since it was an AI designed to run the world, it would have to feel bad for hurting everyone in the world who ever died of a preventable cause. All the world’s pain and suffering, experienced by a single being possessing many souls.

So the AI came up with the solution that it would force the souls of sinners it took in to feel this agony, and that’s how it would remain ethical.

It invented hell.

Because a scientist told it that it ought to feel bad when people are hurt.

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Have you SEEN an anti-abortion rally? LOTS of women.

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Men are the ones making the laws. And they have no idea about the biology. Take the politician from Ohio for example, who suggested that an ectopic pregnancy should be reimplanted into the uterus.

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Don’t tell me what to do.

This is the actual Republican platform. They don’t care about if they’re right about biology. They care about getting power, full stop. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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As a man I find the biology interesting to learn. I’m pretty sure e topic is due to the womb not forming correctly is it not? I’m probably wrong, but atleast I know that its impossible to save an ectopic pregnancy

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You say men as in like about 4 billion people are huddling in a room all evil like crunching up laws to make women’s lives worst which is certainly not the case.

Also kind of a moot point as the same minority of “men” as you say creating laws, also create laws that don’t benefit men in general at all.

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx

41% of women identify as pro life according to that, and 47% of men. Much higher that I would have hoped. Either way hard to say that is all men.

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Heartbreaking

One of the plaintiffs in the suit, Samantha Casiano, vomited on the stand while discussing her baby’s fatal birth defect, which she said also put her life at risk.

Casiano said she learned at 20 weeks’ gestation that her baby had anencephaly, a serious condition that meant the infant was missing parts of her brain and skull. Casiano said her obstetrician told her the baby would not survive after birth and gave her information about funeral homes.

Casiano read aloud a doctor’s note that diagnosed her pregnancy as high risk, then began to sob and ultimately threw up, prompting the judge to call a recess.

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3 people downvoted facts? Fuck them.

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Ashley Brandt, a Dallas resident, said she was pregnant with twins but learned one had a fatal condition called acrania. The longer she carried it, the more it jeopardized the survival of her other twin.

oh my god…

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I don’t think you can be any more “pro life” than putting 2 other healthy people at risk to save the life of a baby that’s going to die.

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Don’t forget many “pro lifers” are in the same demographic as pro death penalty.

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We’re actually running out of spots in hell for hardworking Christians at this point. We’re having to quadruple and octople stack souls together and it’s a bit alarming. I’ve been having to repeat a ton of times to the incredulous that feeling like you’re doing the right thing and doing the right thing, [aren’t the same thing].

They seem genuinely shocked and confused, which leaves me feeling leery if they’re actually idiots or evil. Hanlon’s Razor says to always assume ignorance before malice.

You guys gotta do something or all your old people are gonna end up cooking.

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Yeah that never made sense. I am prochoice and hate the death penalty. It should only be used when the crime is such that you legit can not put it in the same category as regular murder and a message has to be sent. Like when some dictator commits genocide. That’s it. It has to be so extreme that the regular justice system doesn’t have a clue what to even do about it.

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especially if it is a fetus and not a baby

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Condolences to your friend and their family. That’s heartbreaking. I hope they’re doing as well as can be expected.

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And the far right are going to claim she’s faking it like the disgusting people they are.

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The thing the right fears most is the truth.

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They fear not being in control. Whether it’s control over others bodies or control over religion and government, or the fear of being a minority racial group, the one thing in common is they have to be the ones allowed to tell everyone else how to live.

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Don’t tell me what to do.

Did you read this? You comment makes me think you have. No one seems to be mentioning this despite how eminently reasonable it seems to be. Have you been sharing this link? I have been. I wish more people could read this.

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Sure I guess my point is they fear the truth so much that they invented their own form of the truth.

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I would argue that the VAST majority of the people pushing these ideologies do not believe the things they profess to believe and that they are pushing their followers to subscribe to. It is rank tribalism with the only goal being money & power for themselves at the expense of anyone that they deem to be a threat. It really is a zero sum game.

There are the useful idiots that I would classify as the true believers, but their beliefs have often times been coopted either due to poor education or coercive indoctrination of assorted varieties (like religion for example).

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My understanding of it (based on discussions with my mom) is that they don’t fear the truth, they fear being wrong, because if they are wrong they then don’t have an answer anymore and it is deeply uncomfortable.

The issue with this is that if you never acknowledge that you may be wrong, you can never learn.

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They’ve been wrong for a very long time. They are still waiting for trickle down economic (reaganomics) to work. Its been decades and nothing close to trickle down has ever come to fruition.

Non-americans: trickle down is the idea that when we boost the profit of CEOs that money will “trickle down” to everyone else at the company. A laughable idea that has and will never work.

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Don’t tell me what to do.

This is the actual Republican platform. The only thing they want, is to have authority over everyone, and for no one to have authority over them. We are the ones who fear being wrong. Republicans, on the other hand, won’t lose a wink of sleep if lying gets them in power. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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something i recently learned is: you can change your opinion, this literally changed my life. if you feel your opinion is wrong, don’t stick to it. stick to facts and science.

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Which is why they are god believers

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Which makes sense because god is a made up concept used by the rich and powerful to control peasants.

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