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Smoking anything isn’t great for you, regardless of what it is. However, one important point is that most people don’t smoke pack-a-day quantities worth of weed like is apparently considered normal with cigarettes. (Rastafarian religious figures possibly exempted.) There is a significant difference in magnitude, here.

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Not to mention the who knows what gets put into commercial cigarettes.

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Yeah, inhaling burning plant matter is never good for you. If you smoke weed for a long enough time, you lungs aren’t pink anymore. Dry herb vaporization so far seems to be the least harmful, but it’s not like it’s not at all bad for our lungs. It’s immature and foolish to pretend the things you like have fewer drawbacks than they actually do, and it ultimately hurts global legalization efforts.

When my vape breaks down and I have to smoke for a few weeks, I definitely feel it in my lungs after a while.

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I had to stop using dry herb vaping. The effects were not enjoyable. I just switched to smoking a bowl, and it was far more enjoyable.

I’ve been meaning to make a post about it on here…

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Interesting! I find some vapes make some pretty weak tea, it could just be the one you used or too low a temperature setting? I have an Arizer Solo II and set it at max temp, it is far more potent than others. But that said, a vape high isn’t the same, for sure, maybe it does just suck for you, which is a shame. I have that problem with edibles, they don’t seem to work on me. Same with antidepressants, lol.

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To be fair, weed is bad for your lungs when smoked. People should probably keep that in mind when choosing whether to use edibles, or to smoke.

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I vape. Its prob still worse than edibles, but better than smoking. Lower temps at least

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I vape once a day before sleep most days (can’t sleep without it, I’m old, tried everything else). I also use an edible (vape let’s me sleep, edible keeps me sleeping).

I usually dry herb vape but on a recent trip I picked up a cartridge and battery. I find it’s less harsh (if temp is lower) but you need to take way more drags to get medicated.

To be clear, I’m a lightweight and typically do one “dynavap” which is about .1g I think.

Based on that, I think dry herb vaping is “better” than carts.

Thoughts?

Edit: homemade edibles in case people think I’m a Richie Rich.

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Dry herb vaping is definitely better for your lungs than carts.

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I use an erig for concentrates.

Typically 545 F.

I know on days where I have the luxury to smoke more than usual, I end up kinda wheezy with my breathing. Then again my usual is typically a super small dab to aquaint my throat/lungs, and something more normal sized. Then another normal sized one before bed. I predominately use it for anxiety, appetite booster and anti emetic, and sleep. I don’t have like cancer or aids or anything, just a shitty touchy stomach that has plagued me my whole life. Eating pretty much anything is guaranteed to make me nauseated.

But when I first got into it (as opposed to flower) I was way overdoing the amount I loaded each time. Ended up wheezy every day.

I’ve now cut it back to a fraction of what I used to load, and am having a much better experience over all.

Something about vaping it (carts, erigs, dry herb vaping) makes me cough a lot, where as burned flower does not generally. The exception is massive bong hits, but the bong I bought is fucking ridiculously overkill for personal use. I just had the money at the time and wanted something nice lol. Then one of my buddies had to quit for work reasons, so I’m looking forward to him coming over and trying it out when he can.

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If you are wondering about health effects, my doctor said vaping weed is probably the worst way to consume weed. She said the oil/syrup in the vape really fucks up your lungs. At the end of the day, it is up to the user what they choose to do tho.

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Vaping concentrates/extracts are very different from dry herb vaping.

[Cannabis] extracts are not diluted in propylene glycol or glycerol like nicotine due to their hydrophobic properties. Instead, various forms of oils including vegetable oils, terpenes, and tocopheryl acetate (vitamin E acetate) have been reported as diluents. In most reported cases of EVALI, additional flavoring additives are also added to products.

Although many of these diluent agents and flavorings have been “generally recognized as safe” for oral ingestion by the FDA, recent research shows that when heated to form an aerosol and inhaled, conditions including bronchitis, bronchiolitis, acute hypoxic respiratory distress, lipoid-associated pneumonia, and pneumonitis may result. [1]

The terpenes used in vape carts to dilute and reintroduce flavor and aroma (which is lost in some extraction methods) also produces harmful byproducts when vaped. [2]

Another problem with cheap vape pens and e-cigs is the cheap atomizers/coils used. There have been confirmed cases of these coils/atomizers leeching heavy metals into the vapor produced.[3]

However, dry herb vapes do not have these problems. Dry herb vapes only vape the flower itself. Unless you are running the vape high enough to result in benzene (205–365°C / 401–689°F) [4], then the only thing to worry about with dry herb vapes the quality of their coils. Again, cheaper atomizers/coils have been known to leach heavy metals into the vapor.

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@NocturnalMorning @trees My doctor said it was a worldddd of difference between dry herb vape and smoking. Much healthier.

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I’ve had a pax3 for about 3 years. The smoke is cleaner for sure, but for some reason, it always makes me feel like shit compared to joints. I clean it regularly too

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Edibles and inhalation are very different methods of cannabis consumption though. You’re not even technically consuming the same compound, and that doesn’t even take into effect the chemistry that happens inside of your body. While eating edibles is definitely healthier overall, the difference in effects and how your body processes each should definitely be taken into consideration

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Which specific negatives we talking here? Cannabis isn’t as bad but there’s a lot of overlapping negatives.

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That is probably the alcohol companies trying to get people back on weed. Or just a bunch of teetotalers that don’t like people getting high

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Probably both. A lot of them are pissed because it’s harder and harder to both continue firing people for thc and stay staffed. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Adapt to the times or fuck off.

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“Smoking” is synonymous with tobacco use, and “smoking” anything causes damage. That’s a super easy switch to flip for social media purposes.

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