From the article: OLED and MicroLED are the future

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Now if I could just a “dumb” TV that doesn’t have a bunch of built in apps, which apparently is now a huge ask. I just want my TV to display whatever HDMI port is currently selected. Not nag me about connecting it to WiFi every time I turn it on.

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and not spy on me

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But then how would they get that sweet sweet metric data they can resell? Think of the megacorps!

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Look into commercial displays. They are meant for store fronts and guest areas. These screens are typically built a bit more robust than consumer TVs. They may only have one of each input ports, may lack soundboard and built-in tuners, but they have sleeker designs and lack smartTV bloatware. You may need more peripheral equipment for the screen to function as a home use TV. Just do a little research and see if this works for your setup.

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I might look into this for a table to play Pathfinder and D&D on. I’ve been looking for a cheap, durable, no frills display to build a table around.

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So if I am to buy such a display, and I add a soundbar to it, and a usb hub or something, I wpuld bs able to use it as a normal TV?

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That’s the idea. Some commercial displays may have more features or ports than others it just depends on what you find.

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I think there are expensive models that come without any software shit. However I simply “gave up” and don’t connect the TV to any network. It doesn’t see a network cable and won’t get my wifi credentials. Therefore it neither needs nor receives updates. Everything “smart” is done by an attached Kodi box and a FireTV stick, which I both can exchange when their time is up.

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This might not be a solution that fits your needs, but personally this is why I buy computer monitors instead of TVs now

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I have LG C1 that’s not connected to the internet and I have not noticed any nagging. Pretty much just switch between HDMI outputs and that’s it. Thankfully the input switch and apps are behind a different button unlike Samsung and their overly simple remote. (can even hold number button to switch to a specific source without menus)

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I just disabled the “smart” features on my Samsung S95B and set it to run the last used “app.” Which is just the last used input.

It’s not perfect, but combined with HDMI CEC I almost never need to go into the ugly menu. I don’t mind the smart menus of the older TVs when it was a separate part of the TV you could ignore. But the integration in these new TVs where inputs are treated like another smart app and you have to go past apps to get to picture settings is just bad design.

Not to mention serving ads for each manufacturer’s own streaming apps on a device someone spent a lot of money on us completely unethical. But at least disabling the Internet features took care of that issue.

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Yikes! So you mean you just can’t switch inputs without the smart TV side anymore? Time to avoid the Samsungs then…

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You can switch inputs. But it forces you to go through the home screen to do so. And to make things worse, game consoles are relegated to a different section of the home screen (there’s gaming and media).

It’s an awful user experience initially. But once I disabled a lot of it and just got a Roku, it’s a great TV. But I wasn’t going to spend the extra nearly $1k to get the Sony QD-OLED, and I have beef with LG since they made me wait nearly four months trying to get a refrigerator repaired or replaced under warranty (and it was a no cool problem… Not like a broken ice maker or something). So I stay away from LG.

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I have been reading about MicroLEDs for years now, never bought any OLED because of the burn-in. I’m curious when MicroLEDs will actually hit the mass-market and at what price-point and also how they will scale for smaller screens.

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I’ve had my QD-OLED for a little while now and it has had quite a bit of static images on it without any trouble. From what I read before I bought it, OLEDs in general really don’t have a burn-in issue like the early models did.

From what I can tell they’re better than even plasma was at the end. And you’d have trouble actively trying to get permanent burn in on some later model plasmas. I used to service TVs and appliances. In most cases outside of using a plasma display for digital signage, I’d be able to run a swiping pattern for a little bit to get rid of the image retention. The only exception I really had for a plasma that was used in a residence was an older couple who didn’t have a widescreen source and only watched shows in 4:3 aspect ratio. They finally got the HD channels from their TV provider and realized they had the bars on the sides burned in (really the screen aged unevenly).

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wow, this whole comments thread is just like reddit. love it, keep the faith ya’ll!!

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Can they please just bring back actual buttons instead of invisible tap points where you can’t tell where the fuck they are?

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These days most tvs have the “nipple” navigation which initially seems stupid but is genuinely the most natural navigation system I’ve ever used

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No. You’ll suffer the invisible tap points because they can advertise that feature and ship more units.

How do you fuck up televisions? It’s the simplest thing and these corporations just need to fucking meddle.

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That’s great, it means LCD TVs have hit maturation point.

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