From the article: OLED and MicroLED are the future

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I bought a QLED LCD 8k Samsung in 2019 and tbh it’s an incredible display because of its high nit count, local dimming zones and AI upscaler.

I’m a bit out of the loop, can these new technologies go to that resolution yet?

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That’s incredible! Is there a noticeable difference between 4k and 8k? What do you use it for?

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Not OP but one benefit to 8K is that it evenly scales into not only 1080p and 4K, but also 1440p and several other resolutions. So although 8K content doesn’t really exist, if you game a lot at 1440p, it can look cleaner than a 4K TV

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Primarily gaming but also anything looks astounding on it above 1080p, lower resolutions than that though aren’t upscaled great but I never watch content that low res anyway. Refuse to. Mines using LED backlights too, since then Samsung have released Neo-QLED that is even better and brighter than mine.

Honestly on my TV lights look real, headlights on cars, the sun, torches, flames all look like it’s just a pane of glass in front of me. Almost blinds you, never had that experience with a TV previously. To me it’s better than cinema screens.

Brightness in terms of nits is really important, and something the OLED diehard fans don’t seem to appreciate. I get the blacks too with the local dimming yeah not as good as OLED but close enough for me not to care.

I knew about OLED but I wanted the pinnacle of a tried and tested technology over something new.

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That’s pretty cool. Thanks for the extensive reply!

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Wow it’s insane how fast technology goes. Feels like yesterday the first LCDs were releasing, but apparently not!

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Nothing beats 2000’s 2K CRTs.

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Now if I could just a “dumb” TV that doesn’t have a bunch of built in apps, which apparently is now a huge ask. I just want my TV to display whatever HDMI port is currently selected. Not nag me about connecting it to WiFi every time I turn it on.

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and not spy on me

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But then how would they get that sweet sweet metric data they can resell? Think of the megacorps!

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I think there are expensive models that come without any software shit. However I simply “gave up” and don’t connect the TV to any network. It doesn’t see a network cable and won’t get my wifi credentials. Therefore it neither needs nor receives updates. Everything “smart” is done by an attached Kodi box and a FireTV stick, which I both can exchange when their time is up.

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I just disabled the “smart” features on my Samsung S95B and set it to run the last used “app.” Which is just the last used input.

It’s not perfect, but combined with HDMI CEC I almost never need to go into the ugly menu. I don’t mind the smart menus of the older TVs when it was a separate part of the TV you could ignore. But the integration in these new TVs where inputs are treated like another smart app and you have to go past apps to get to picture settings is just bad design.

Not to mention serving ads for each manufacturer’s own streaming apps on a device someone spent a lot of money on us completely unethical. But at least disabling the Internet features took care of that issue.

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Yikes! So you mean you just can’t switch inputs without the smart TV side anymore? Time to avoid the Samsungs then…

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You can switch inputs. But it forces you to go through the home screen to do so. And to make things worse, game consoles are relegated to a different section of the home screen (there’s gaming and media).

It’s an awful user experience initially. But once I disabled a lot of it and just got a Roku, it’s a great TV. But I wasn’t going to spend the extra nearly $1k to get the Sony QD-OLED, and I have beef with LG since they made me wait nearly four months trying to get a refrigerator repaired or replaced under warranty (and it was a no cool problem… Not like a broken ice maker or something). So I stay away from LG.

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I have LG C1 that’s not connected to the internet and I have not noticed any nagging. Pretty much just switch between HDMI outputs and that’s it. Thankfully the input switch and apps are behind a different button unlike Samsung and their overly simple remote. (can even hold number button to switch to a specific source without menus)

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This might not be a solution that fits your needs, but personally this is why I buy computer monitors instead of TVs now

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Look into commercial displays. They are meant for store fronts and guest areas. These screens are typically built a bit more robust than consumer TVs. They may only have one of each input ports, may lack soundboard and built-in tuners, but they have sleeker designs and lack smartTV bloatware. You may need more peripheral equipment for the screen to function as a home use TV. Just do a little research and see if this works for your setup.

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I might look into this for a table to play Pathfinder and D&D on. I’ve been looking for a cheap, durable, no frills display to build a table around.

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So if I am to buy such a display, and I add a soundbar to it, and a usb hub or something, I wpuld bs able to use it as a normal TV?

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That’s the idea. Some commercial displays may have more features or ports than others it just depends on what you find.

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LCD TVs can still improve via faster refresh rates, strolling backlights, and smaller local dimming zones. If the last part can be made small enough, then it would be very hard to tell the difference between an LCD screen and a emissive display. These facts shouldn’t be ignored by display companies.

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The problem is that we are reaching a point where it is cheaper to achieve the same or better results with OLED or microLED than by dumping even more money into improving LCD.

We are already at a point where OLED provides a straight up better value than LCD in higher end price brackets as long as peak brightness is not your #1 priority.

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I’m going to have see a display that truly solves the burn-in problem before making that proclamation.

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Dimming zones creat halo affects when there white next to black. Source: typing on my 12.9 iPad lcd with dimming zones.

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The smaller the dimming zones, the lesser this effect becomes. Theoretically, you can have dimming zones of just 1 pixel in size. People have even “succeeded” in doing this by bonding two LCD panels together, with one acting as the local dimming solution.

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I’d love to have an OLED tv. I just need a good reason to get one. The tv I have now works just fine (unfortunately).

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An “accidental” hammering can fix that real quick like.

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Or just break out the old Wii Sports and “forget” the wrist strap.

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Mine flickers when room temp is above 75 and gets jacked at 78.

The G3 is looking extremely appealing in all dimensions except price.

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Your OLED is sensitive to high temperatures?

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It is an LCD. The temperature sensitivity is the main board starting to fail.

I bought this is 2015, so it is about time to get a new TV.

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I, too, won’t replace something until it dies. Even if an upgrade is long overdue.

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Same, I have a plasma and it works great, doesn’t even know what HD ready means, but displays 1080i.

As long as HD is the max res the TV box gives, I don’t see reason for an upgrade. (especially for a luxury item that is mostly background noice/movement)

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