The VPN provider I use has servers in multiple countries. I was wondering if privacy laws would make it better to VPN to some countries over others when pirating.

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As long as your VPN provider is a proven no-logger, just go with the best performance.

But if you really want to pick countries, Eastern Europe, Italy and Switzerland just to name a few. If you are in the US I wouldn’t be crossing the pond with my VPN but that’s up to you.

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Never heard Italy before. Do they have stricter laws than EU in general?

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Italy is a member of the “14 eyes”, so not a good choice.

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Maybe less enforcement, that would be my guess

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I’ve heard from Italian friends that been doing it for ever and nothing happened.

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If you are in US probably any latin country except Mexico, Puerto Rico and Panama should be OK.

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Why do people keep saying that Puerto Rico is a country?!

Third time this year.

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I know it but it is another territory so…

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Curious what it is about those countries that would cause you to advise against using them?

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They are strongly aligned with US, and this kind of countries are usually more aggressive against piracy.

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Why wouldn’t you be crossing the pond for that? Legal reasons? Latency reasons?

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Because what I said in the first paragraph. If your provider is not a proven no-logger, get another one.

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I’m not entirely sure on the absolute best, but I always use Switzerland. I believe they have extremely strong privacy laws that protect individual privacy and I believe they have a relaxed view on downloading so long as it is solely for personal use, though uploading / sharing torrenting is still very much disallowed.

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… so that’s why our servers are always so fucking slow.

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Tbf it’s often the first one it grabs when I click quick connect.

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I use ProtonVPN’s Secure Core. Their entry nodes are in privacy-friendly countries — Switzerland, Iceland, or Sweden — and exit nodes can be to any of their VPN servers in dozens of countries around the world. It’s a double hop which increases latency slightly, but I don’t real-time game on this configuration.

https://protonvpn.com/features/secure-core

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If you are in the US, stick with US servers on a no-log VPN. Crossing the border with your traffic allows agencies to collect way more data.

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What no-log VPNs are out there in the U.S.? Anything similar to Mullvad?

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I don’t mean US based, I mean US servers. Mullvad has US servers.

Can’t really comment on 14-eyes, but 100% avoid the US, UK, AU, NZ, and maybe CA based companies. I personally don’t use Mullvad anymore since they stopped supporting port forwarding, but it’s an otherwise great VPN.

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What do you use now?

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Got it. Thanks.

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PIA is a proven no-logger. They are also fast as hell.

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I use PIA’s Canada servers for torrenting because they are (geographically) closest to the US with port forwarding. No issues, been using them for years.

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from a meme that is in my head in Bulgaria piracy is legal not sure if it’s the mandella affect or a lie but consider Bulgaria

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I always connect to Sofia because I also remember that ‘fact’ lol

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