127 points

If the target audience could read, they d be very upset

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At least that’ll keep them safe from being turned gay.

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I know a gay person who can read. It checks out.

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12 points

Whew, they sure dodged a bullet.

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113 points

Books don’t gay people. Gay people gay people.

Did I do it right?

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The only way to stop a bad gay with a book, is a good gay with a book

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12 points

The second amendment clearly states that the “right of people to keep and read gay books shall not be infringed”

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Yep, according to it, Americans have the right to bear arms. In fact, a whole bear fursuit.

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2 points

The only way to stop a bad guy with the gay is a good guy with the gay.

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42 points

Books didn’t make me gay, it was those stupid sexy men with their penises.

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15 points

stupid sexy Flanders

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Hah! This made me laugh much harder than it should have. Nice.

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7 points

At least it didn’t make you gay, or did it?

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2 points

And those hot trans women and their penises!

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Unexpected plot twist of the year.

Ironically South East Asia and the middle east would like you to respect the lady boys hehehe

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You did! But I hope you don’t think that discredits what you think you’re making fun of, because you’re showing why it makes sense.

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Correct, in the same way that guns are not inherently evil and require someone with bad intentions to use them in a bad way. Both are correct, but sadly the folks who believe a certain way (books are bad or guns are bad) will not be convinced to change their point of view by a snarky sign.

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Ofc guns aren’t evil. They’re objects. A chair can’t be evil. And yes, you can bash someone over the head with a chair, yet there is a glaring difference. A gun is made for the sole purpose to shoot someone. You can’t really use it for anything else. It’s absolutely it’s intended purpose and what it’s used for. So, if we were to assign ‘good’ or ‘evil’ to inanimate objects, guns would certainly lean way more into the evil side.

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A gun can shoot someTHING, not only someONE. I’ve shot guns many times and have never shot someone. People forget competitive shooting is a thing (and very fun). I know I’ll be downvoted, but just trying to show people there is another side.

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Yeah. An even chair. This is wild.

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I don’t remember being turned, and neither does anybody I know. To the contrary, there was so much constant pressure to be straight from a very young age and you can guess how well that worked.

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My comment wasn’t intended to suggest gay people can be (or should be) convinced to be straight, I apologize if it came off like that. I don’t believe sexual orientation is something that should be forced on to someone. You be you.

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6 points

Someone with good intentions can absolutely use guns the wrong way.

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Correct, the same way that someone with good intentions can use a car the wrong way. I know you are not going to be convinced, but I’m just trying to provide another point of view.

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The responses to your comment are mind-blowingly stupid and small-minded. And that’s not even to mention the ones that totally misrepresent what you said. It’s very disappointing and disheartening.

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Thank you. I really like the Lemmy community, but most are extremely anti-gun. I’ve been able to show multiple people IRL how much fun guns can be when used responsibly, but it’s much harder to do online.

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Guns do not require someone with bad intentions use them in a bad way. A 4 year old near me blew her head off while her family was in the next room. Plenty of other people with no bad intentions have liked themselves and others with guns.

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2 points

And knives, power tools, ladders, alcohol at celebrations. That rationale doesn’t work.

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2 points

A 2 year old was killed in a car accident near me. We should get rid of cars.

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Guns do not require someone with bad intentions use them in a bad way.

Let’s rephrase - someone with bad intentions or terrible safety practices.

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NuCleAr wEapoNs DoNt KiLL PeOpLe

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I mean… they have two modes of operation. The default mode is to save millions of lives, the other mode is to delete humanity.

So they do and don’t kill people.

It’s Schrodinger’s nuke

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Hey look! A middle schooler…

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55 points

I am proud to be pro gun and pro lgbtq+ ✊

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If only the Black Panthers and Native Americans had been armed…

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Black Panthers in California were famously armed, until Ronald Reagan signed the NRA-supported “Mulford Act” which prohibited them from carrying loaded weapons.

There were similar racial motivation behind the wave of legal prohibitions on concealment in the late 19th century. The thinking was that only “criminals” needed to hide the fact that they were armed; “honest” and “law abiding” people had no need to hide their weapons from other “honest” and “law abiding” citizens or the police. The supporters of these laws didn’t make it a secret that their intentions were to disarm former slaves, who would certainly draw unwanted attention from racists if they attempted to carry openly as the law allowed.

Before the emancipation proclamation, the only restrictions on guns were based on criminal conviction and race, specifically, the disarmament of “Negroes” and “Indians”.

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Because gun control is racist and classist.

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NRA-Supported

That’s a bit reductive, the NRA was a casual gun club when that happened. In response to them supporting the Mulford Act, the membership overthrew the leadership and turned it into the very political organization

The NRA post the 1977 Revolt at Cincinnati would never support the Mulford Act. It’s the same as when modern Republicans claim to be the party of Lincoln

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What I’ve always thought would make an interesting alternative-history story would be if the Native Americans (or aboriginals in any place really) had something akin to a modern compound bow.

I’ve been shooting bows since I was six. I’ve also fired matchlock smoothbore guns. The matchlock is more powerful, but less accurate, slower to fire, noisy, it takes some setup before you can fire it the first time. Compound bows are crazy accurate in the right hands, and some can launch an arrow weighing 40-50 grams at 100 meters per second. Add a sharpened tip and it will penetrate a lot of armor, too.

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Those things are crazy. I sometimes wonder why nobody has gone into a killing spree with one, but I suppose a brain that is able to train using such a thing successfully is not compatible with a brain that does killing sprees.

edit Well ok, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/world/europe/norway-murder-bow-arrow-terrorism.html

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Same! I actually volunteer with an organization called Operation Blazing Sword where we teach LGBTQ+ folks how to safely use firearms by taking them to the gun range and providing ammunition for practice.

Banning guns keeps the people who most need to protect themselves from being able to do so.

Gun control was started in the US as a racist measure to make it difficult for black Americans to protect themselves.

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Hey! Nicely done I have my own private range and have been wanting to volunteer for blazing sword. Especially in this rural ass area I’m in.

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Self defense with a firearm is exceedingly rare in the US. People who claim that guns are used for self-protection haven’t done any research to back it up and don’t realize that more guns in people’s hands just leads to more danger for everyone.

https://vpc.org/revealing-the-impacts-of-gun-violence/self-defense-gun-use/

https://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable17.pdf

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gun-ownership-not-effective-means-self-defense-gun-control-p-171

And often, firearms in the home cause more danger for domestic violence victims than protection because abusers escalate to homicide using the weapons available to them.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/M21-3762

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Here’s the thing though, I’m me. Statistics aren’t convincing because I’m exceptional. Are most people less safe with guns around? Maybe, but most people are a lot shorter than I am too.

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8 points

Sorry if you’re being sarcastic, but why then do the workers with the guns have the least rights?

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The bourgeoisie takes rights away from the proletariat. The bourgeoisie have outlived there usefulness and the proletariat should rise up against them.

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Yeah but how come workers in Europe, who don’t have guns, have 100X the rights of workers in the US, who do have guns?

Is it because people with guns are scared little pussies?

Because, to be honest, that’s how it looks!

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What rights do you think we don’t have in the USA? I can do whatever I want, and I do every day in the USA.

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I can do whatever I want, and I do every day in the USA.

Get hurt and get treated at a hospital without paying.

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Getting an abortion 🤷🏼‍♀️

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The same logic in both cases, the books aren’t making people gay, they’re providing people with knowledge that might make them realize they’re gay. Guns don’t kill people, they provide people a tool for people who want to kill people to kill people.

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I was of the opinion that less guns resulted in less murders, based on data from Australia. Before I read this I thought banning books didn’t affect quantity of gay people, now I’m doubtful…🤔

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Less gun ownership is correlated with fewer murders, but it’s a complicated equation.

Part of it is what gun control measures are in place. Having 100 guns in safe hands may not be safer than 10 guns in random hands, but it is safer than 75 guns in random hands.

Part of it is the ownership culture. Some parts of the US may have the laxest gun laws in the world, but not enough to account for the sheer quantity of guns available. Most people can get guns in most European countries. They just choose not to, or choose to get fewer.

So do less guns result in less murders? Or do we get less murders by not having a toxic relationship with firearms and not letting dangerous people buy a gun at the liquor store along with a handle of vodka?

It’s as “complicated” with gay people and books. But the “toxic relationship” in that case are people who are closeted gay because they think it’s horribly unacceptable and nobody will tell them better.

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Banning books affects the quantity of happy, self-assured gay people. By how much? Fuck if I know, the general culture is probably way more important. But, books affect culture and culture affects books and their availability.

The difference between being a murderer and being gay is that, generally speaking, murderers are made and gay people are born.

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Remember, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gay is a good guy with a gay

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Hi I’m gay, where are the bad boys?

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Hi Gay, I’m dad. I mean daddy 😈

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Ray a tay tay that’s the sound of my gay

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So anyway, I started blowing

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Dude talks about bringing the big guns out, unzips and an actual pistol falls out! Anyone would be shitting themselves at the balls

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