A user posted the question What opened your eyes to what’s happening in Palestine? on !asklemmy@lemmy.ml.
As is evidenced, multiple comments have been removed by mods. The Mod log shows the moderator removing multiple of these comments due to “rule 1”, which on lemmy.ml is:
No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
The mods then also banned some of the commenting users for a few days.
This all lead to a post by one of the affected users to AskLemmy, accusing the mods of “removing all comments critical of Hamas”. “No comments critical of Israel were removed”, the user alleges. The post has since been removed by the lemmy.ml mods as well and the user banned for 14 days.
Is it bigotry to say that both sides have done some horrific shit, and that the current conflict is approaching 100 years, and was going on in different forms for centuries before that?
Is it bigotry to say there’s no solution as long as both sides have the goal of exterminating the other, and weaponizing the grief of their own groups?
The whole thing is the very definition of a clusterfuck, and I’m not a member of either group, so I normally shut the fuck up.
Seriously? You didn’t even bother archiving the drama?
Lame 🥱
I (early GenX) grew up with: it is an ugly conflict between two evil sides who do not hold back to kill. When agreements are reached, there is always one side who breaches the agreements. Periodic killing returns in a continuous cycle. At the end of every period the conflict hardens and borders are moved. I have not changed my opinion. I have not seen an eye opener in the past months. SNAFU: Situation Normal, All Fucked Up
Removed for Rule 1 and given a 4 day ban.
I’d have to see if their code of conduct covers the F word or something but it’s not a ban that would sit right with me.
That one I can see why the comment is removed. The Statement that
When agreements are reached, there is always one side who breaches the agreements.
simply is a blatant lie.
Did they mean “only of the two sides breaches” (i.e., it’s always _____'s fault) or “either one or the other side always breaches” (i.e., each side instigates at one point or another) …?
And for the record I don’t know the details of which interpretation is accurate. And also I’m not sure that either phrase even begins to capture the entire complex mess of this long, sickening conflict that wastes so many lives.
My take is genociding, oppressing and terrorizing people is wrong, I don’t give a fuck who does it or why.
I probably wouldn’t ban someone for it, but it’s not difficult to see why that comment is a distasteful and callous oversimplification of the reality of what’s happening, and it has nothing to do with the f word. If we’re going to pick one word to single out I’d say it should be “normal.” This situation is not normal by any standard.
Your comment.
callous oversimplification of the reality of what’s happening
Kick out the jams:
I (early GenX) grew up with I have not seen an eye opener in the past months.
I don’t see a problem with the phrasing. Jams is saying “this is what I saw” which is really a product of their environment. This isn’t a ban-worthy comment. This is an educational moment. This is an opportunity to say “that’s not what happened, you were fed a bunch of propaganda.”
In the news related communities on that instance it was the same shit. Tankies trolling and straight up insulting others, or just spreading disinformation. I tried reporting them but they never bothered to do ANYTHING and the same trolls did the same shit over and over again in other comment sections. That’s when I decided to block all the Lemmy.ml communities when I see them. It’s just Lemmygrad pretending not to be Lemmygrad.
I try to resurrect !dundermifflin@lemmy.ml about the show “The Office” should I move it elsewhere?
It’s a pretty laid-back show, and there were already 400 people in that community, so it made more sense to keep using it rather than create another one from scratch.
There is a television and movies specific instance somewhere. If you search communities you should be able to find it. I’d create show specific communities in that instance.
Found it and it already has a The Office community; https://lemmy.film/c/theofficeus
Well, I was a big fan of lemmy.film, posted a lot to the communities there, but unfortunately it has been down for a few weeks now.
We created !moviesandtv@lemm.ee as a replacement to !moviesandtv@lemmy.film.
Since then, I try to stick with established instances.
I’m not surprised.
Who were the bourgeoisie that Stalin purged? Oh, right, most of them were Jewish.
Horseshoe theory strikes again.
