124 points

Which is a terrible app. I made the mistake of buying a HP printer and that app crashes more than it works (and the printer doesn’t work without it, of course).

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Wait, you have to have an app to print? On Windows? Can’t you just install the driver and print using the Windows print interface? I understand that they have software that might have extra features, but basic printing should only require a driver, at most.

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Epson is doing the same. I’m not sure if you can get scanner full features to work without their app.

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Maybe not all the features, but basic scanning should work with just a driver. I have a Brother Multi-function that works on Mac OS without Brother software. I think I recall Windows having a scanner interface built-in.

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So there’s no way for Linux cups drivers to run these printers. Another reason to pass on them!

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That seems crazy to me. Is it a Windows exclusive thing, or is it something they’re rolling out everywhere? I have an Epson printer, only about a year old, and on macOS I don’t have any issues printing or scanning without any Epson software installed on my system. It did pull down drivers when discovering the printer on my network, and I can’t see any features that it would have that I don’t get aside from the “email to print” stuff that I’ve never needed or wanted to use.

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If it’s a scanner too, you can’t use half of it.

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There are scanner drivers that allow units to work with the built in scanner app. My brother printer did that. No special app need for printing or scanning.

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Pretty sure you can just use the drivers. You certainly can on my HP printer.

Yeah, the highlighted download on the website will be HP Smart And All It’s Infernal Bullshit, but if you’re in the habit of reading and not just clicking next, next, next then usually there’s a basic driver to do what you want.

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Most of HP’s printers have a “Basic Print and Scan Driver” that is listed as “For IT Professional use only” on their support page. I fear the day where HP Smart is the only option.

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Try it.

On USB with the basic driver specifically, modern HP printers will let you use the device for exactly 10 print jobs before it locks all functionality and demands that the unit be connected to the network and an HP account registered.

Do not buy them. Find a brother instead.

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Wasn’t that on Wifi-only devices, where the USB was still there for mass production cost saving reasons?

But yeah, don’t buy HP; message received years ago already.

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My m404 seems to have been immune to this problem.

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I pretty sure it is the only option for some models now.

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Never use anything hp branded if you can help it

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That’s HPE though. To my knowledge they’re two completely seperate companies.

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That basically indicates where they get their money between both groups. Enterprise, from hardware sales and support programs. However, consumer side is basically just harvesting personal information and selling it

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In one of my previous roles as a sysadmin, our company signed a deal with HP to directly supply enterprise laptops to one of our clients as part of Microsoft’s Autopilot deployment model, so users could get a new/replacement laptops directly and get it customized on the fly at first logon, instead of us having to manually build it the traditional way and ship it out. It worked fine in our pilot testing, so we decided to roll out to the wider audience.

However, one problem which arose after the wider rollout, was that SCCM wasn’t able to connect to any of these machines (we had it in co-management mode), and even the laptops which were able to communicate previously, stopped communicating. It was working fine in our pilot phase, but something was now blocking the traffic to SCCM and we couldn’t figure it out - it was all okay on the network/firewall side, so we thought it could be a configuration issue on the SCCM server side so we raised a priority ticket with MS. After some investigation, we found the root cause - turned out out to be this nasty app called HP Wolf Security - which was new at the time - which HP started tacking on to all devices, unbeknownst to us. Wolf was supposed to be an “endpoint protection” solution - which no one asked for, especially since we already had Defender. Searched online and found tons of similar issues reported by other users, all caused by Wolf. Lost some of my respect for HP since then - who tf pulls stunts like this on an enterprise level?!

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Got an HPE Aruba switch, it’s the only HP thing I’ve ever had that I like. Getting new firmware from HP was a pita though.

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the HPE sites are a fucking nightmare

I do like the HPE hardware and support but fuck the management that controls their web presence.

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Its not very good even for enterprise level, you still have to reinstall whole OS and run debloaters to delete hp spyware. A lot of pointless extra work for something you should be able to just hand out or do basic configurations.

Maybe its good if you consider purely the hardware, but even then it propably has at least some way for hp to gather information no matter what you do to it. I wonder if anyone has thoroughly investigated what kind of stuff corporations put into stuff they sell.

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you still have to reinstall whole OS and run debloaters to delete hp spyware. A lot of pointless extra work

15 year sysadmin and I’ve never worked anywhere or heard of an org that uses the pre-installed OS, and that’s independent of manufacturer and OS.

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I told my girlfriend (now wife) when we moved in together that i had over rule: you’re not allowed to purchase anything HP. May the company burn in hell.

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28 points

Make messes, leave food sitting out, invite shady people over…just for God’s sake don’t bring an HP product into my home!

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7 points

Never use anything Microsoft if you can help it

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I just wish one could help it. At work I mostly curse microsoft but at least they have some useful stuff. But nothing that is worth all the shit if there was any option. Its also quite blatant how they change their services to be dumber and more annoying to use most likely only to later start selling some premium version of it that is less painful to use.

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55 points

Imagine running an OS that doesn’t even respect you. I use Arch btw.

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Arch has disrespected me every time I’ve tried to install it.

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21 points

The Arch Wiki spit in my mouth, pulled my pants up to my chest, and called me names.

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11 points

And you liked it

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Oh shit I better install that right now, sounds hot

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4 points

Two out of three ain’t too shabby

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For me it was the exact opposite. It did exactly what I told it to do.

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18 points

You told it to disrespect you?

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21 points

Autofellatio Linux crowd assemble!

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Imagine

That’s is so overused. Is this the new ‘litchally’?

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Imagine being so insufferable you literally go around ridiculing how strangers communicate.

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8 points

Beans

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8 points

Based and imagine being that guy-pilled

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It was new ages ago, now it’s just something people sometimes say. If you want to mock people, at least try to be up to date.

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I wondered what was happening. I got a notice my daughter installed this app (under 13 account) and was like why would she do that. We don’t have any HP devices. Brother for life.

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What software do you use for monitoring this?

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Microsoft has built-in parental controls force-enabled for <13 accounts and child-opt-in for >13 accounts.

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This guy is correct.

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Brother for life.

You bet it. I got one toner refill for like $6 for Brother laser printer which is happily chugging along with factory installed drum after 2600 pages printed during over 6 year period. No DRM, no driver drama, and you know what happens to jet printers with such sporadic usage.

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At work we pay Microsoft thousands for developer licensees, have windows pro, and there is still ads in the OS… Windows exists to service them not us.

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If work doesn’t care then you shouldn’t care. At my workplace, they promoted a dumb woman who is in some sort of weird relationship with the manager. Its been 2 months and the backlog of work keeps growing. I am just enjoying watching the ship sink. I don’t own the business so i don’t care.

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Lots if employees have stock based compensation and therefore do own part of the company. A tiny fraction of a company’s market cap can still be a huge component (over 50% is not uncommon in tech) of an employee’s compensation.

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Bro you talking about the 5-10% who works for multi national companies and get stock options. Majority of people don’t get stock options, they just do their 9-5 and go home.

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