Democratic Politicians: “We’re going to ignore you.”
Minority voters: “… that’s bad.”
Republican Politicians: “We’re going to pay attention to you! And blame you for everything wrong with the world!”
Minority voters: “That’s worse.”
Gotta love the state of affairs the US is in.
I don’t think these issues are being ignored but a two seat majority in the Senate, comprised of red state democrats, does limit the ability to do anything here. If you look at the state level there is a lot happening to address a variety of issues by blue states. Red states are moving backward
Ignored might be a strong word, but, especially on the national stage, there hasn’t been the impetus to make strong strides on minority rights for a while. Part of that is the fault of a certain proportion of Democratic voters, and part of that is the fault of Democratic politicians (and all of the blame, of course, lays twice as heavy on the GOP), but it is definitely a continuing problem.
Here in Utah, it’s: Legislators: We’ve rescinded all rights to register as a democrat and enacted gerrymandering across the board to ensure we never lose our power. Also, we’re putting our state up for sale to the highest bidding oil and gas companies, who needs public lands."
You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.
Sorry, who are the Democratic Muslim elected officials enacting lgbtq+ flag bans?
Hamtramck, Michigan voted in a Muslim majority city council, who promptly banned Pride flags… for reasons:
Yeah that article is a little more complicated than “Democrats get Muslim elected.“
Are any of the elected officials in question even Democrats? The article doesn’t say.
It’s happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days
Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn’t yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.
That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
south_park_cable_guy.gif
That’s false and offensive stereotyping. Polling shows over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights and treatment. Only 15% of Pentecostal Christians in the US agree. Meanwhile, Muslim politicians like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are very supportive of LGBT issues to the point where they lost the votes of some Muslim conservatives.
Stop trying to make stuff up.
But the specific thing that Paddirn is referencing DID happen?
So? Judge millions of people by the actions of a politician?
There’s a Christian politician on west coast who proposed a bill giving death penalty for anyone who curses their parents, because the Old Testament said it. Should we judge all Christians by that guy? Absolutely not. Stop trying to stereotype.
All Abrahamic religions are very conservative. Hardcore Muslims share more values with hardcore Christians than with progressive liberals.
Not true.
In the US, Jews and Muslims vote Democrat. Over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights as everyone else; meanwhile only 15% of Pentecostal Christians agree.
Muslim Americans used to vote Republican and Bush won them in the 2000 presidential elections.
Until 9/11 happened of course.
But it’s interesting what you say about 50% of Muslim Americans supporting lgbt. My guess is that those who went to America are vetted, more educated and therefore more open-minded, unlike in Europe which received massive influx of Muslim refugees of all backgrounds.
I don’t mean to sound classist and elitist but educated immigrants are just more likely to adapt and integrate. This is not very different to how the Italians and Irish in America were perceived in the past due to their massive immigration population.
I don’t think the current shitstorm has anything to do with hardcoreness.
Sure, but most Muslims in America are not hardcore. The average Muslim American is significantly more liberal than the average white person.
Who are they going to vote for in what is effectively a two-party system, the Republicans with a sizeable group of Christo-fascists?
They’ll get even worse than ignored, they’ll be targeted.
3rd party has always been a guise to pull votes from Democratic candidates.
Works both ways. Trump, if he’s not the nominee, will be splitting the other side too.
There is no better year to get ranked voting than going 3rd party while both primaries split their votes.
The MIC needs you to think it’s impossible or a waste of energy.
Tell me you don’t understand math & game theory without telling me you don’t understand math & game theory.
And that’s how you effectively voted for whichever of the 2 parties you hate least.
What should Democrats be doing for black voters that they aren’t?
reparations for slavery, strengthening the right to vote and making it easier to access polls, outlawing the death penalty, abolishing prisons, removing the clause in the 13th amendment that allows for legal slavery, abolishing the police or at the very least force them to have oversight, banning AI for use in law enforcement, etc.
Reparations seems like a nonstarter but the rest of these are happening, to various degrees, at the state level in blue states
I think reparations are possible, we have to organize and do more than just voting to make it happen though.
Thanks for the thorough list, that all seems like good stuff to me except I’d prefer reforming prisons and making them like the Nordic model instead of abolishing them.
prison abolition is uncomfortable at first, so I understand. Nordic prisons would be a massive improvement, but to me it’s just polishing a turd
I’m not a legislator. In general, I think they would look like substantial investments into black communities, rather than direct cash payments.
Look over black families that trace back to at least one person who would have been eligible for New Deal and Post War housing benefits but did not receive them due to the colour of their skin or for living in a redlined neighborhood or other factors of the like, calculate an average benefit to each generation following from Americans who did get those benefits, and pay out accordingly to modern black and mixed race households.
It is debatable if there’s even money that could be paid back for slavery since those wages arguably may have already exhausted their extragenerational benefit, but redlining and housing benefits denial is a crime we can observe clearly in the present day, and who’s generational benefits are well argued to be still in hand for the families that did get them.