Excited to find the western chauvinists in this community.

Edit: Wow apparently the only people on chapo dot chat are whitees unaffected by and benefiting from their imperialism confidently declaring how the perpetrators are to be treated.
Y’all have some nerve

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ITT If you shoot a black kid in the back in downtown Baltimore I want nothing to do with you. If you perfarate an entire back family in Mogadischu or Baghdad that’s ok, you did growth and spaces.

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Should we be so accepting of IDF veterans fresh from shooting civvies on the border fence?

I dunno. I guess only if said veteran was fully repentant and acknowledging of the crimes they were part of…and most importantly were now actively agitating against them.

I guess I don’t believe in condemning people forever - neither the cop in Baltimore nor the grunt in Mogadishu, if they’re on the bottom rungs of such fucked up hierarchies. We need allies and if they’ve come around, that’s better than nothing.

Forgive, never forget.

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This is true, but that’s wholly distinct from pulling our punches on troops out of the desire to attract them to the left, which seems to be the stance a lot of people take

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I occasionally see posts from here with army recruiters sending texts to schoolkids and the weird troop worship you have.

If I’d grown up as skint and fucked up as I was in the UK at 16 in the US instead with your lack of healthcare and in a really shit environment I would have taken the first genuine shot of escaping I could.

That would probably have been the army tbh.

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So here’s a question: There are vets in our ranks, is this good or bad?

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Good

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Okay, struggle session over!

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Not directly about this particular struggle session, but just throwing this out there because it’s relevant:

There are various groups that help soldiers leave the military by offering legal or other counseling (like mental health), and by sometimes offering legal representation. This is a big deal, since it allows troops to leave the service usually without getting screwed by their command and getting a negative discharge that will negatively effect them throughout the rest of their lives. I know some veterans anti-war groups do things like this, and the GI Rights Hotline also offers a lot of resources for general navigation of the military legal system.

If the left really organized behind this in some form, they could remove soldiers from the ranks by helping them get themselves kicked out, while also providing a pipeline to bring them leftward. Not a whole lot of people are aware of this kind of thing, so I thought it was worth mentioning as potential praxis.

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