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At this point everyone should know they just lie to see what they cam get away with and then see what actually needs to be delivered in the next years only to still have a boring game

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That’s the problem I have with their flavor of procedural generation: While there was some thematic difference between some planets, exploring them always felt like being on the same place.

Oddly enough I never felt this way with Minecraft and I can’t say why…

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I expect the great leap forward in LLMs and AI art to dramatically change this at some point. They can already write pretty interesting plot with OK prompting, surely only a matter of time before someone is able to wrap that in a game.

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Funnily enough I was talking to my teenagers on this exact subject last night. At a basic level, nms appears to have what Minecraft does, plus spaceships. Why doesn’t it work the same?

For us, we decided that nothing in Minecraft is difficult to get at the level you need it. Wood is easy, always there. When you learn that you need coal for torches, it’s just in that rocky outcrop. Start digging, here’s some iron for you.

In Minecraft you don’t need to understand anything complex, until you’re ready to understand something complex. And if you want to spend a week running around on the surface and collecting chickens, you can do that too.

I restarted a nms game the other day and remembered that constant “warning, warning” as the planet inevitably tries to kill me. It was disheartening.

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Just as a heads up: No Man’s Sky has the creative mode where the whole survival stuff and the mindless basic material collecting is pretty much turned off. My daughter and I went on relaxing treasure hunts just the other day, jumping between solar systems and walking around on dangerous surfaces without grinding stuff first. It is a do-what-you-want game at this point.

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I agree with you 100%. The difference could be in the “uncanny valley” of proc gen… Minecraft is blocky, so you suspend judgement and just find the attention to detail a wonder, while perhaps realistic-looking proc gen games are not quite realistic enough.

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The trailer looked like they slapped fantasy skins on no mans sky.

Its obviously not a lie. Its a slightly smaller version of what NMS is right now with what sounds like more smaller details and proper multiplayer.

That sounds completely deliverable based on what their current game can do right now.

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nms took a few years to be not shit, so this will be a pass for me for a minimum of two years post release

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At this point under-delivering is a marketing strategy. Just promise the world to lure in pre-orders, then release it too early in a broken state and spent the rest of the time that you had planned to develop it anyway to fix up the title and reap the press articles about your comeback and how much work you do for the fans. Gullible idiots will praise and defend you with their lives on social media. Worked for NMS, CP2077 and many other titles.

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FINALLY somebody gets it!

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But if you wait then you get a good game for cheap, so it’s only really a problem for the goobers who pre order.

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This guy needs a PR handler

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I heard Peter Molyneux is looking for a new job.

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Janitor

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I mean, everything they showed in the trailer is in NMS right now, and it’s pretty clearly in the same engine.

With No Man’s Sky, it was a [relatively] unknown studio making some pretty massive claims and then showing what turned out to be pretty exaggerated footage to sell it. There’s no getting around the fact that they over promised and under delivered, to say the least.

But this is different. They have done everything they’re saying and showing is in this new game now, it’s in NMS right now, you can go play it and do all the same things but with a scifi flavour instead of fantasy. I’m not sure where people’s doubts are coming from.

Whether or not it will be good is subjective, there are still people who don’t like NMS’ gameplay loop and that’s fine it’s not for everyone. But the features are there.

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I’m not sure where people’s doubts are coming from.

I mean, with what Hello Games have done so far, the article is just trying to stir up drama where there isn’t any for clicks.

“Bored housewife” level drama at that.

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