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M1 gets .6 gallons to the mile, with a maintenance schedule that requires a check to be completed every 12 hours, even in combat. Failure to complete the maintenance check can result in engine failures that cannot be corrected in the field. At least it looks cool though.

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okay i understand there are practical limitations to building and maintaining a 60 ton cannon on treads but every 12 hours??

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They need to rev the engine up to a certain speed to blast sand particles out of the filter every twelve hours. It can be done from inside the tank and only takes a couple of minutes.

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15 points

Getting because I had to stop and rev my tank loudly for several minutes in an active war zone

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21 points

average american suv/pickup truck

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18 points

Forty rods to the hogshead

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26 points

American SUV brain is so bad it’s even spread to their tank designers

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other way around. there’s a reason the hummer was so popular.

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22 points

The T-72 fires a slightly larger round than the M1A1, 125mm vs 120mm, and much larger than the original M1 which fired 105mm. Same amount of ammo too.

But I guess you have to make room for that dump-ass jet engine in the M1.

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The m1 abrams is a superior tank, in a nazi masturbatory fantasy where maintenance, logistics, cost of manufacture, and crossing bridges doesn’t matter.

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Does cost of manufacture matter to them? The Abrams is roughly double the cost of a T-90 and the US has bought and built so many of them the army asked congress to stop (and congress said no).

The US army also has a fuck ton of bridge layers attached to their armoured divisions.

Us tank doctrine isn’t developed around extended periods of independent operation, so while maintenance is an issue of expense, it’s not one of performance.

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even other than bridges heavy tanks have to be much more selective when planning routes, light armored cars and smaller tanks can more or less go in a straight line where heavy vehicles have to avoid certain types of terrain (slopes, mud, narrow passes, etc.) to a greater degree, and take a longer, more circuitous route.

the T-80,90, etc. have less vertical cannon traversal than the abrams as well, this is due to differences in combat doctrine: america/the west expected a defensive war in the cold war times, while russia expected to be on the offense. therefore western vehicles are large, heavy, reliant on stable and secure logistics situations, and designed to fight often from prepared defensive positions, with long range weapon systems and optics to use them accurately, whereas russian vehicles are smaller, cheaper, lighter, more mobile, easier to maintain, with shorter range but versatile weapons (one of the T-series of tanks can launch AT missiles out of its smoothbore cannon IIRC), because they expected to be on the move and their combat doctrine emphasized closing with the enemy to negate optics/range/sensors advantages, they built tanks to be able to use railway cars and roads and maneuver more easily in tight terrain to attack from unexpected directions and outmaneuver defenses.

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That the doctrine isn’t built around extended periods is actually a problem in the era of combined arms. Not everyone is going to roll over like desert storm.

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That the doctrine isn’t built around extended periods is actually a problem

what? no country is capable of keeping their troops ahead of their supplies for very long, it’d be bad doctrine to assume you could make up for that with airlifts

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Can we get some love for the comically small Объект 775? It clocks in at an astonishing 1.74m tall.

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It gets no love because with modern thermal optics its whole existence has no purpose

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