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The whole episode up until the ending was amazing, it felt like how doctor who should feel especially thanks to donna. “Im donna and youre a gonner” shit made me and my friend laugh so hard. That was classic donna. And oh my god the toymaker explaining what happened to the docs companions after her? Incredible scene. And toymaker dancing around unit was awesome. But then it crashed hard, they pull bi-generation out of their arse. If its a myth the doctor knew about, something that big has to be built up to, to me it just felt like a cheap way to copy the 50th with having 2 doctors on screen.

Although from the small bits ive seen of him, ncuti seems to me like hes gonna be an incredible doctor. That one scene when he kicked 14 and donna out of the tardis, jokingly, with sass was awesome, felt like a NEW doctor, but still the doctor. Also his interactions with tennant were so heartfelt. No doubts hes gonna be great.

Too bad they fucked up the sonic so bad lmao. I can gurantee this new sonic wont be able to make FUCKING SHIELDS because thats op and they were just lazily thinking of a way to get 14 out of that situation.

Im going to give ncuti a go, but with that ending it felt like i had what doctor who used to be ripped from me. If they keep retconning things like davros for the sole purpose of: “wheelchair users cant be assosciated with evil” then the shows dead to me and thats really upsetting

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I liked when they asked him if he was just going to leave without saying good bye ‘Would I do that?’ Ummm, how many times has the Doctor done just that?

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I really enjoyed the Toymaker. Everything was so manic and fun but still dark.

I’m not sure I’m on board with 15 yet, the way he was going to sneak off felt odd, I don’t trust him. I will say I’ve never liked a new doctor so it will grow but right now I’m like, nope!

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Also he stole 14’s floor mallet!

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He did!!

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The Doctor is always sneaking off without saying goodbye once an adventure is wrapped up.

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Kinda… but not like that.

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But it was exactly like that when he lied to Donna and said he was going to park the TARDIS properly before coming in for dinner. Had she not called him back he was going to leave without a word.

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I suspect bi-generation is a ploy to make this Doctor, and all he does, reversible. I understand if RTD didn’t want to carry all the dense guilt and lone wolf weight of Moffitt’s Doctor into his version, but just dumping it onto poor Tennant and carrying on with a properly “counseled” Doctor, as if the new Doctor wasn’t a continuity but rather a drop in from already having a life, seems…weird.

But for the producers, if it doesn’t work out you can just eliminate the RTD storyline and switch back to Tennant. After all, who really expects a time lord to sit on a porch drinking lemonade for long?

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I find it troubling how some fans itch for “reset points” when it comes to certain changes from the show template. Like suggesting rolling back the first Black Doctor immediately after his premiere appearance, or crying for RTD to retcon all of the first female Doctor’s run before it was even over.

Why not just… live with it? Let the show go on forward instead of imagining some weird rewritten, all-white-males version? It was fun having Tennant and Tate back for a second, but I honestly prefer Ncuti Gatwa already, especially over a “rerun” face.

On a sidenote, I don’t think David Tennant is anywhere as eager to return to the show (even on an intermittent basis) as his fans are, and I kind of doubt we’ll see him again until it becomes time for that actual regeneration into 15.

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I guess I wasn’t clear. I like the new Doctor too, and I don’t want a reset. It’s did occur to me that the episode lent itself to rolling back. Another possible conclusion is that Disney wants to spin off more Doctor-themed shows and having two doctors makes that work.

IDK. I’m happy we’re getting more Doctor Who, but nervous we’re destroying tropes along the way. Two Tardises, just like that? Hmmm.

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That’s an interesting way to look at it. It’s going to be a fascinating time for Dr Who

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I think that choice has a lot to do with the Curator and the Renegade Doctor, this would explain them pretty neatly.

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Also… my reactions to seeing Mel were like this- *Thinks of Mel on TV* Ugh. Mel. *Remembers Mel on Big Finish* Hooray! Mel!

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Maybe it’s because I’ve ignored previews and trailers, but I was surprised (not unpleasantly so) that Gatwa used his native Rwandan accent rather than a British accent. He will clearly be a groundbreaking doctor in many ways.

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Ahhh I was wondering about that.

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