315 points

Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?

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I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:

Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/

It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.

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4 points

Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by “power-mad” mods, some people just eat what they’re fed.

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1 point

It’s more of a Plato’s cave situation. You only know what you see.

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55 points

Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).

I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.

I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.

In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).

I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)

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The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it’s extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They’re all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.

The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.

Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.

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11 points

Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it’s gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I’m noticing it more because I don’t go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it’s an election year, but it also wouldn’t surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.

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6 points

not to mention the continued guarantee of enshittification. We’ve only just seen the beginning of their pursuit of short term profits at the expense of their core value: the userbase.

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Wasn’t there like a bot defense team that published a ban list or something but they just gave up during the exodus?

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Ah, I hadn’t noticed this level of worsening. I suppose because when I visit I still go to niche subreddits and there the impact is less noticeable (but you do notice it).

I suppose great moderators have left the platform and they’ve been replaced by others who would like to be as good (but are crippled by new Reddit rules allowing many more trolls) or those that just don’t care or are straight crazy!

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I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near

I don’t. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?

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I don’t disagree with you!

I just would like to see certain niche communities grow here too because Lemmy is great and (so far) it feels like the conversations here are nicer, so I’d like people to move here to make Lemmy even better

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Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent reposting.

Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.

Neither of the services have a lot of OC.

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12 points

It took a couple weeks but I’ve found that blocking some bot accounts and adjusting the sorting on the app I use has plenty of fresh content with active posts. It isn’t exactly the same as reddit in its prime, but I shouldn’t expect it to be either.

It’s causing me to branch out into other topics and conversations that I probably would’ve missed on a gigantic platform like reddit. I think reddit made it easy to see interesting content because of how long it had to develop into a community. Lemmy is still a bit jumbled and fragmented, but the community seems to be sticking around and forming a new identity apart from reddit.

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6 points

Mind sharing which bots to block? Some bots are useful, so I’d rather not hide all bots.

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Yeah, turns out the lawless fediverse needs a few laws and a governing board.

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168 points

Is “Crushed” a new term for driving away the most active and interesting users away?

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I sometimes use Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.

Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.

I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.

Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer

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As an example, I don’t understand people decrying reposted content from reddit. Also we have Risa, they don’t.

But reposting is literally what reddit is too. And how it got started, reposting and bot comments from Digg. At least here you lot are all great to talk with.

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10 points

r/Risa actually started on Reddit (source: I created it) and the mods who didn’t quit for Lemmy decided to reopen, but the Lemmy version is definitely the more active and superior of the two, IMO.

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Dead internet theory

This post made by a normal human person

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10 points

This post made by a normal human person

Sure thing, 7u5k3n 🤔

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12 points

I for one am a totally normal human person

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9 points

Hello fellow human

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10 points

My only problem with Oppenheimer is that they should have issued earplugs upon entering the theater. Shit hurt my ears.

Like, I get that bombs are loud, but I don’t need to actually feel pain and probably damage my hearing to get the picture.

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5 points

Reminds me: do we have an earrumblers community yet

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10 points

Beep boop

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1 point

This is so true, when you go there now it’s full of “reply guys”, gatekeepers and trolls. There’s little to no sense of community and the money grabbing is even more upfront and obvious.

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136 points

I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.

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80 points

Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.

I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.

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27 points

Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.

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29 points

I did the same, but athough I love this place, there’s still a huge scarcity of contents. Sometimes, as a lurker, to find more stuff. Here we’re just an handful, thus I cannot still find here what I used to find on Reddit.

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18 points

What is really lacking is all the very specific communities centered around common interests. The more specific the harder, especially if it’s not a traditionally nerdy subject. I mean, there’s an obvious bias, and I won’t pretend I am not part of it.

Those used to have dedicated forums, but Reddit manage to capture them all for convenience, and now very few subsist. A good part of what’s left has been abandoned to AI spambots.

Part of this activity is now on discord, but the invite structure isn’t great for those. It makes this content hard to discover and impossible to search if you’re not aware of it.

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8 points

I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.

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IMO they didn’t crush anything?

The apathetic remained.

Those who have niche communities that aren’t available elsewhere likely remained.

Several of my subscribed subs are completely gone or functionally extinct due to lack of participation.

Anecdotally I find reduced participation in other subs, people seem less willing to have a discussion.

Personally I’ve moved on to Lemmy/KBin/etc. and spend most of my time there now.

But “crushed”?

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Nah I’d say crushed because they started forcibly reopening subs, removing moderators, etc etc

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7 points

Crushed is a funny way to spell “all the good people left”

Fucking lol

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86 points

I know how everyone just wants to pipe up and say, “well it didn’t crush me hur hur”, but I actually watched the video. It’s a good record of what went down. I wish it would’ve mentioned Reddit alternatives, but it’s still solid work.

And to anyone who still maintains that the protest has fatally wounded Reddit, look, I’m on your side but Reddit is still the 800 lb gorilla of link aggregation, and most folks still don’t get why they should care about API pricing.

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800 pound gorilla only lasts until a kid falls in the cage

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3 points

🍆🙊

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