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Is it only me or does Putin look really bad in this photo? I mean he seems unhealthy and in addition to that he looks like he aged 10 years in just 2. Amazing speedrun.

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Cool, now do Biden.

edit: I see I hit a nerve 😂

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Cool. Poland ain’t gonna start shit.

Any attack on Poland will trigger Article 5.

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Poland is a major supply hub and has lost plenty of boots on the ground. Art 5 isn’t automatic. US won’t risk nuking for expendables. All Europe is expendable.

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Which is totally why we sent millions of troops in WW2.

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Europe has nukes, and an industrial capacity that dwarfs Russia multiple times over and is roughly equal to the US.

Russia has about as much chance attacking Europe as Japan would attacking China on their own.

Also without Europe, the US has no capacity to develop semiconductors better than what Russia has. In the extremely unlikely event Europe falls to Russia, the US will not be far behind.

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Europe does not have an industrial capacity that comes anywhere close to Russia as is clearly evidenced by the fact that Europe can’t even produce basic things like artillery shells at this point. Furthermore, European industrial capacity needs energy to function and the cost of that has gone up significantly. All of this is well documented in mainstream western media, so it’s kind of shocking that somebody could be this misinformed https://archive.ph/61ruk

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Russia has no interest in attacking Europe. US/NATO is the executive arm of longterm geopolitical interests that strive for total global dominance. They utilize sophisticated multipronged longterm strategies attempting to bring the rest of the planet under their control. Russia is a small part of that parcel.

The ultima ratio regum part of it considers some geographies more expendable than others. Egress of core industries from the EU is deliberate part of the strategy. Vassals are ruled by compradors, so populations are captive. It’s direct oligarch control on the other side, so it’s simpler.

MAD still applies. Both sides go to great lengths to avoid it, since the outcome is deterministic and global. Which is why the US would be a second target, if not already part of first strategic strike.

Wars are confusing places, so potential for fatal mistakes is exponentiated.

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Poland won’t, but according to Hitler in September 1st, 1939, Nazi Germany was defending itself from Polish attacks.

I think putin is thinking of forcing Belarus with Wagner to attack Poland and see how NATO will react when the threat would be war with Russia (if NATO will respond, which I hope it will, I think Belarus will get the same help as Armenia).

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Whcih I hope it will.

Less bloodthirsty person from the imperial core.

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I think NATOs response would have to be a strong, decisive one. No NATO member wants the Alliance to look weak. Nobody wants World War III, either, but I think they’d conclude that showing weakness is riskier than calling Putin’s bluff.

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No, Putin. An attack on Belarus is only an attack on Belarus. Someone would have to attack Russia for it to be an attack on Russia. Look at a fucking map.

(Yes, I’m being obtuse, but giving this asshole a hard time makes me smile. Cut me some slack.)

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It helps to actually learn about the subject before opining on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State

edit: fun to see how people downvoting ultimately show that they’re just in a cult where facts don’t matter to them

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edit: fun to see how people downvoting ultimately show that they’re just in a cult where facts don’t matter to them

Lmfao, that, coming from you, is truly hilarious. “The pot calling the kettle black” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

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Factual information to you lot is like garlic to a vampire 😂

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5 points

It’s called a joke. Get over it.

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The real joke here is you embodying the ignorant American stereotype

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At this point they should just annex Belarus.

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There’s a reasonable argument to be made that if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine, we use similarly sized nuclear weapons on Belarus. It’s the only non-escalatory, tit-for-tat response we have.

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If retaliatory nuclear weapons are on the table, why would we launch them at Belarus instead of at Moscow? Not saying we should use nukes, btw. I would think that a better response to Putin nuking Ukraine would be a more precise attack against Putin himself and senior officers involved in greenlighting a nuclear attack on Ukraine. We can’t just go eye for an eye when it comes to tens of thousands of civilians. We need to ensure no more dead innocents, not give them the same number of dead innocents. Especially because people like Putin just straight up don’t give a shit about civilians, including the ones on his side. He’s a sociopath who cares only about what benefits him personally, so nuking Belarus accomplishes nothing.

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Attacking Russia mainland or Russian leadership is an instant ticket to global nuclear annihilation.

We need an option that shows we are not afraid to use nuclear weapons, but nor are we willing to escalate. A proportional response in the only option we have, unless we believe we’ve reached the end-game, in which case there can be no precision strike or small escalation; then go all in, launch everything now, all at once.

So, what options do we have that mirrors what Russia might do in Ukraine. Can’t be North Korea, they are nuclear-armed themselves and would mean pulling Japan or South Korea into the exchange.

The only ally Russia have that are semi-implicated in the war, with Russian assets that at the same time aren’t full-bloodied Russian state-troops, are Wagner in Belarus.

So, two nukes in Ukraine from Russia = two nukes on Wagner in Belarus.

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24 points

So is Belarus going to attack Poland now or is Putin planning a false flag attach again?

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I think it’s probably Wagner was moved there for that reason and putin wants to test if alliance will be afraid to reason.

If NATO responds then he sacrifices just Belarus, but if it won’t then other eastern countries are at risk.

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Wagner already found out before, but we can do it again I guess. And the rest of NATO can tag in too, this time.

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I don’t think he cares about Wagner, he wants to see if NATO backs up Poland if Poland is attacked as a response to Poland “attacking” Belarus.

BTW: Poland doesn’t have stellar reputation in the west, primarily because of politicians who attack west and strangely are warm towards Russia. One might say “what do you mean? Poland is very anti Russia” and this is true with most Poles, but the ruling party still continues fighting with the west, some even say that they don’t know which enemy is worse, west or east, like WTF? Then there’s a Konfederacja populist party by Russia which is fully against west and its leaders advocated to improve relations with Russia. Most members of course are less open and saying that we should give Russia what it wants or we get attacked.

That was also the only party that demanded our politicians to apologize when a protester splashed Russian ambassador with red paint at the beginning of the full invasion.

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