I love how a country is allowed to just get away with killing children and UN workers and doctors and journalists but we condemn countries that do the same thing like Russia. It makes no sense that Israel should get a free pass, all it does is expose a huge double standard
False equivalence.
Russia bombed Kiev for the hell of it, not even pretending there was a military objective. Russia also is conscripting Ukrainians to fight against their fellow countrymen as cannon-fodder on the front line. It is kidnapping children into Russia.
We could go an have a piss-fight between the warcrimes of Russia and the warcrimes of Israel.
The US can be the bad guy in one conflict while be on the good side on another. Imperialism is bad, whether it’s Russia or the US doing it.
Also, Hamas are war criminals as well. No good guys fighting there ATM.
The whole point of the article is Biden criticizing Israel for going too far in their mission to eradicate Hamas. He even criticized US for invading Afghanistan.
No good guys fighting there ATM.
IDF are the good guys, just like the Ukrainian army is. That doesn’t mean that every single individual in either army are angels or that every operation is virtuous, just that their overall intentions are just.
An important question: What would the world look like if these guys won versus if they lost?
If Ukraine had initially launched an attack on Russia and killed 1,200 mainlycivilians, taken 200+ hostages and thrown in a bit of organised gang rape, I doubt Ukraine would be receiving its current level of support, and there may even have been some support for retaliatory action by Russia.
That’s not to say that Israel’s current appalling treatment of Palestinian civilians is justified
Except it wasn’t Palestine that attacked, it was a group disassociated with the Palestinian Authority, that Israel itself funds so it can justify the “war” to favor the arms dealers and distract the constituents of the terrible administration they’re receiving.
The two conflicts are not even remotely comparable.
The two conflicts are not even remotely comparable.
That was largely my point.
It’s crazy. On reddit, it’s 90%
Let’s ignore how many people israel has killed, they need to kill more, and let’s also go ahead an label everyone who says “too much” a hamas supporter
Then you go here and it’s again 90%
Let’s not even call hamas terrorist, more like freedom-fighters with some friendly rape and friendly fire thrown in.
You are describing r/Worldnews not other Reddit subs.
And Lemmy has been 50-50, with very little actual personal attacking.
Isreal’s main exports are cutting-edge technology found nowhere else in the world. Russia’s main export is oil. Western and European Union countries were fine getting their oil elsewhere, but they absolutely do not want to give up advanced tech. Especially since there will always be other countries that don’t care and will continue trading anyway.
Mostly software based tech. Israel is leading in the field of “legal” spyware for example.
Maybe they mean this sort of thing.
It’s security software - firewalls, VPNs, that sort of thing. It’s not that it’s not available anywhere else, but the Israeli stuff was always considered among the best before this conflict kicked off.
No. Israel must change, Netanyahu must resign.
Action: skirt congress rules to give Israel shells to continue bombing indiscriminately
Words: You need to change, you’re losing support.
Which is it? And can you guess which speaks louder.
propoganda. israel doesn’t shell indiscriminately, they targets terrorists.
otherwise gaza would b erased from map in a single day.
do u really compare the most dense city in the world to… that?
or u try to make a point that so many buildings were destroyed yet so many arabs are alive thus Israel is doing a great job not harming the population?
“Terrorists” as in “every male person over 18 + 40% women and children as collateral damage”.
Your conclusion is wrong from what they say. Don’t project and polarise. Killing civilians is horrible and must be stopped. But that’s different from targeting them as terrorists. And you know that! How will this mess be ever solved if even on the most basic level are these stupid dramatisation and accusations?
Biden to Bibi: “don’t make the same mistakes we made in 9/11. There’s no reason why we had to be in a war in Afghanistan.”
There’s really no reason why we had to be in a war in Iraq. Afghanistan… yeah, probably not there, either, especially given how intimately we understood how well they had been trained at guerilla warfare against foreign invaders.
Although, that’s not guite accurate; there were reasons, they were just serving different, less publically recognized, purposes. Much like Netanyahu’s war.
make no mistake - Netanyahu has his faults, many even, but no country should and would accept the terror act hamas did and do nothing
Good thing that basically every other action you could do falls between “do nothing”, and “commit ethnic cleansing”, so they’ve got a lot to choose from!
Too bad they decided to go with the ethnic cleansing instead.
Well Iraq, the first time, yes. They invaded Kuwait which in my opinion did legitimise the first gulf war (though opinions may vary). Though IMO it should have happened under UN flag but of course the security council is forever locked into a stalemate.
The second war, no. Whatever it was… Made-up WMD’s, funding of military industrial complex, Dubya’s desire to finish daddy’s pet project, whatever. A real reason there was not.
Strong words from the anti ceasefire country. A real moral stand here.
