I have a nas with 2x10tb drives. I mostly just have music, movies and tv shows on it.

People talk about raid not being a backup, but is that relevant for non-original data? I mean I can always get the media again if need be. It would just be an inconvenience.

What would you do?

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Media Server? No content backup at all.

If you lose everything, just download new stuff you want to watch, or redownload a few TV series/movies.

Music? There are streaming services.

Only backup configurations and maybe application data, so that the reinstall will be easy. Those few kB/MB could sit anywhere. I’m using GitLab for this purpose.

Edit: Images! If you have your photos on there, back them up! They can’t be replaced!

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The streaming services wont work if you have no access to interner lol.

At my last job I had to travel to my work dailly for over an hour in one way, for almost the whole travel I didn’t have any network or phone reception.

Will much rather just have music on a media server and a client that allows me to locally download some of my favouritr music for such situations like navidrome and synfonium than pay for spotify premium to allow me to do that.

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We’re talking about replacing lost content here though. And as such you can use the streaming services as a “backup” by re-ripping your whole collection if you lose it.

I’m actually doing this now as part of a library cleanup. Zotify + beets are a great combo to pull down vast quantities of music and properly sort and tag it.

Then I stream it to my phone in my truck using ampache and ultrasonic, which does have a local buffering option.

However if you have some exotics that you ripped from rare discs, demos or prerelease, live recordings with sentimental value etc. I would suggest keeping those properly backed up. I don’t have many of these, but the ones I do have are backed up both cloud and offsite.

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Do people really have so much music that it’s get’s hard to just keep it backed up?

I personally never went over 1gb in size of my music library,

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Streaming services let you just mark playlists for offline use, I have my whole spotify library offline.

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Most streaming services have that under a paywall, which in that case I will much rather just make my own if I have a system to do it.

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i have ~24tb (6x4) unraided x3 on separate nas, one of which is only plugged in and turned on every few months. if i lose a drive, i can clone the whole thing quickly from one of the other 2 backups… i dont have to worry about failed raid arrays and i get a bit more useful storage…

in the ~5 years i’ve had this setup going i think ive only lost one drive, and it started throwin smart errors long before it died

i guess im using a ‘redundant array of inexpensive nas’ = RAIN! is that a thing? can i make it a thing?

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Curious what was the model of your drive failure? I have 6 years now on a bunch of 8TB WD Elements/EasyStore drives as well as some 10TB-14TB WD MyBook, Elements, and refurbished WD drives from serverpartdeals in the preceding years. Still no failures yet but I’m expecting one eventually.

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all my drives are WD Red

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I’m probably an outlier, but I have a full 3-2-1 backup. Over 100Tb myself, with it all backed up. I have a safe off-site I back everything up to weekly and then annually I do a full backup to LTO tapes.

I lost my media once. I don’t want to go through that again.

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Wow!

Given your previous experience, your approach is understandable.

I have an old raid setup on which the card died, and Crashplan deleted my Backups when the array went offline (yea, I was pissed)l.

One of these days I’ll find a card on ebay, recover everything, and back it up again.

If I’d had a second backup…

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Pretty sure something like 10 years ago crashplan deleted a bunch of customer data in a deduplication job gone wrong.

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So you have 3 100TB arrays?

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2 arrays, then the tapes. Primary has double parity, backup has single

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Thanks

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What’s the cost on the drives and tapes? (Roughly)

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Tapes aren’t bad, I can get few dozen TB off eBay for a couple hundred. Drive was crazy though. Dropped 2 grand on it and it still isn’t that good of a drive.

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Oof.

Yeah, last time I looked the drives are stupid money (I feel like the should be much cheaper).

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Very specific media like rare or modified Rips gave an extra copy on an archive folder. All my cloud storage and personal backups also go to the archive folder. That folder then gets backed up to local raid 6 NAS, and then the qnap software syncs that up to backblaze once a week.

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I have 3x 14 TB in a raidz1 setup on TrueNAS. Would take awhile to redownload but isn’t critical in any way, so I feel like that’s a good compromise.

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