This article was written in the sense of bashing gnome but yet some points seem to be valid. It explains the history of gtk 1 to 4 and the influence of gnome in gtk. I’m not saying gnome is bad here, instead I find this an interesting to read and I’m sharing it.

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That KDE Plasma 5 is finally usable and stable, after having decided to stop pushing the ridiculous plasmoids on the user […] is like having an old whore finally becoming a respectable woman.

Yeah, I stopped reading here.

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what the actual fuck

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Wow that’s pretty gross

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Why on Earth are these nonsense blog rants constantly upvoted here?

It is essentially an unlettered rant that conflates the author’s UI and toolkit preferences with an objective view.

It doesn’t even provide a useful comparison to the evolution of QT to provide for a meaningful reference of its implied assertion that the evolution of GTK is too rapid for devs.

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This article can pretty much be summed up as I don’t like GTK or Gnome so I’m going to just present them being shit as a factual statement. I use Arch and KDE btw.

Gnome 3 released close to 13 years ago and was announced 16 years ago. At some point, people need to stop crying about the UX changes and get the fuck over it.

If you don’t like it, use something else and stop being so entitled.

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See the above. Stop being entitled. It’s their project and most of the work is done by volunteers, for free.

If you find their product so detestable, don’t use it.

You don’t have a god-given right to have free volunteers make software in the exact way you want them to.

They are volunteers working on their own project, not slaves working on yours.

Honestly nowhere outside of Linux do I see so many people get so much for free and yet be so spiteful and entitled in return.

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Apple, Microsoft and Google, on the other hand, decides what is best for them, shove it down the users’ throats and get users’ money (and personal data) in return…

I think some criticism still valid though (but not the entitlement).

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Most of the GTK environments seem to be doing fine. Most of them seem headed to Wayland as well with the maturity of GTK in Wayland making that easier. Cinnamon will be ready for Wayland in a few months with both XFCE and MATE likely to have something out next year.

Incredibly, GIMP itself may finally get off GTK+ 2. They claim that GIMP 3 will launch in February. We will see how long it takes to get to GTK4. I think the transition will be easier. The jump from 2 to 3 was a big one.

COSMIC of course is going its own way with the Iced toolkit.

On the app side, GTK seems to still be a very popular option.

In terms of conclusions, I do not see mainstream resistance to new GTK versions. Some people balked at GNOME 3 but GNOME today seems more popular than ever. MATE faithfully kept the old GNOME experience but has migrated to newer GTK. It was not a rebellion against the toolkit.

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❤️ GTK and Gnome.

I swear the same people that complain about Gnome3+ also complain about Wayland.

Both projects put a lot of thought into their controversial decisions, they’re attempting to learn from their mistakes.

There comes a point where you need to adapt to change. And both these projects have proven their changes are beneficial.

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