(The “Windows” slices of the pies are entirely made up by Baldur’s Gate 3, which also runs well over Linux)

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What cope. I still run into countless compatibility issues which bars Linux from daily use for me. Stop trying to downplay proton compatibility, it just makes your arguments appear disingenuous.

I would fully switch over to Linux in a heartbeat if there was no compatibility problems.

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first, file a report. so devs are aware of your problem.

second, i feel you. i’m in the same situation. if i switch to linux right now, my stream deck will lose features and i probably on’t be able to use my steering wheel anymore. plus i really struggled to install fusion360.

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7 points

Even if it had full comparability, you won’t have switched to linux. You don’t need reasons to do it, except your own wish

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6 points

Eh, works fine for me. I have a lot of games to choose from, so I’m really not lacking on selection.

That said, I totally get it if it doesn’t work for the things you need. Use what works. Linux works better for me than Windows, so it’s what I use.

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2 points

Which games? I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a game that didn’t run with Proton out of the box.

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Some game updates just break proton compatibility.

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The issue has never been that games can’t run on Linux. It has always been a simple question of “will the games I want to play run?” More than ever, that answer is yes, but if your favorite game doesn’t, or if you never want to worry about “will this upcoming (online) game let me play on Linux?” then you use Windows by default.

Like, I love y’all, but the Linux gaming community on Lemmy is kinda insufferable with the straw-man “people think games can’t run on Linux” argument. That’s just not the issue

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The issue is they want to run rootkits and malware instead of games.

Not sorry. Siege, Fortnite, Valorant, all of these games require kernel level access to Windows to run, and the publishers refuse to support Windows.

The only reason I’d ever play games like this in the past is due to peer pressure from friends to play these shitty games together with a bunch of sweats, cheaters and an overall generally toxic community. Especially Siege.

Social peer pressure goes both ways. And I’ve basically peaced out on any of these games in my friends group. That was enough to end that game for game nights, and as those games fade from our memory. I make sure what little memory of it remains is the true tainted and awful form from which they originated.

If you need a kernel level anti-cheat for your game, and nothing else will protect it. Your game is shit, your development cycle is shit, your company is shit, your community is shit, and why would I ever want to play a shit game with shit people from a shit company that forces devs to work under a shit development cycle?

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That is not, in fact, the issue. I don’t play any of those games and still can’t play all my games on Linux. I don’t allow kernel level anticheats on my system.

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You’re actually the worst. I’m glad you don’t play my games.

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6 points

Fortnite uses EAC that already run on Linux.

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If only one could have two OS on one machine and somehow boot into the one you want to play a game on.

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19 points

All the inconvenience of Linux with all the inconvenience of Windows. You might as well throw MacOS on there, too.

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28 points

Sure, but at the point you’re doing that the allure is lost on a lot of folks.

Why boot to two when they only want to play a game and one does it without needing the other.

This is an answer to a question that wasn’t posed.

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12 points

It’s so weird, usually it’s Mac users saying that to me.

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7 points

It’s a hassle, most people are one size fits all

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That’s great until you decide you want to play more than one game and have to restart your computer 5+ times per day. Then you’ve somehow made the experience exponentially worse than staying on either one

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-3 points

Do something more with one’s life than play that many games.

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1 point

“Linux is great for gaming. You only need to follow these 25 kernel configuration steps to combine three 3rd party applications and it runs just fine!”

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6 points

Step 1: Install Steam Step 2: Download games Step 3: Play games

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3 points

Jam Mint or Pop OS on there and you will never in your life have to worry about a kernel to game. Not even once.

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7 points

Yeah it’s not like that anymore.

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5 points

If you have an AMD GPU and use Steam it’s mostly plug&play these days.

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2 points

I have an Nvidia GPU and I don’t want to waste my already limited gaming time trying to make the games run smoothly.

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Mine is not an argument asserting that people think games can’t run on Linux, mine is a mockery of the people who do so (I know several).

I find you insufferable too, don’t worry

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8 points

You are mocking a straw-man. These people you refer to number in the dozens

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I must’ve gotten lucky with my quarter of a dozen friends who do that…

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9 points

well, thanks to Gaben, new games working fine

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-23 points

Oh yeah? Name 5.

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28 points

That’s why they specified online, because the cancer that is Easy-Anti Cheat has a teeny tiny checkbox saying “allow linux users” that is rarely if ever checked.

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8 points

dunno, if we’re talking about easy anti-cheat, i’ve played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues

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21 points

Exactly. If even one of my games doesn’t run, it’s already a pain in the ass. Might as well stay on windows so I don’t have to deal with the headache. They all run on windows. I’ll switch when they all run on Linux.

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23 points

way back the issue most certainly was that though. There was a time when trying to run games with wine was a frustrating exercise that only resulted in a success in small minority of cases… which meant the answer was almost certainly negative when accounting for the additional restriction of trying to run the games you actually wished to be playing. Not everyone may remember this of course.

@neatchee @linux_gaming

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62 points

This has been my concern too. It’s great that we’re seeing some specific cases where Linux benchmarks faster than Windows, but that doesn’t mean a damn thing if the one thing I’m trying to play just full on won’t work.

Telling me that I can just also run Windows is counterproductive. If Windows will do everything I want, and Linux will do only some of what I want, now you’re trying to sell me on increased complexity and difficulties and learning a whole new system, without actually getting rid of the problems that come with running Windows in the first place.

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4% on linux

Sorry but multiboxing with a compatibility layer is pure cancer, for some reason proton just keeps gobbling up resources until the clients eventually become unplayable and need to be restarted.

alt tab doesn’t work for switching and also MINIMIZE ON FOCUS LOSS? fuck you linux, absolutely fuck you.

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SDL_VIDEO_MINIMIZE_ON_FOCUS_LOSS=0 my brother.

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4 points

if it was that simple I might still be trying to make it work despite alt tab not working with instances hidden behind multiple launchers.

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63 points

I’ve been 100% Linux for over a year now. If it doesn’t run, I don’t buy it.

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That’s how I’ve been for a few years now. Windows has serious bugs that I encounter all the time that I never encounter with Linux.

Just this week alone… screenshots stopped working, usb microphones were stuck on mute, and the taskbar crashed preventing me from using any touchpad gestures or even accessing the start menu to restart.

The task bar was fixed with a restart but the other two issues required a reinstall of the os. I troubleshot those for like an hour without any solution.

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Windows is not ready for the desktop.

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Haha that’s pretty funny. And I whole heartedly agree.

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3 points

I know! I have to use windows at work (IT Admin) and using powershell always makes me wish the software we need ran on Linux. Just today I needed to extract a partition image with dism and it just did nothing for half an hour before the progress bar even came up. People say that Linux is buggy but gnome gives me way less headaches than windows 11.

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3 points

Windows unfairly gets the reputation of being more reliable than linux. I’m just waiting for my work to make one app available on Linux and then I’m switching.

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29 points

That’s the attitude that we all need to have. Same here, if anything doesn’t work on Linux, I ain’t buying it.

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17 points

I even got a refund from steam when rocket league lost Linux support when that one company bought it

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Nice. You can run rocket league on heroic launcher btw. I have it through the epic store. Works flawlessly

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I didn’t bother because I got plenty of playtime from it and got it through the Steam Controller/Link bundle as well. But I did consider it since I was ticked about losing Linux support.

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6 points

Same been Linux only for several years now. If it won’t run I won’t buy it.

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Same, since 2013.

I’ve found that often the game is listed as not linux, but runs fine with proton anyway. So I often buy, and refund if needed.

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That’s what I do too.

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Huh, same here, give or take a year (I was 100% Linux before Steam came, which was sometime around 2013).

I have never refunded a game though, ProtonDB is usually accurate so I just check there before buying.

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I kind of dig Linux Os, I find Linux users insufferable.

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As a fellow Linux user I entirely agree. I stay off the forums as much as possible. My latest crime was uploading a tutorial on how to update the bios on certain laptop models. Got fucking roasted, even on lemmy.

For some reason Linux forums are like stack exchange; an extremely toxic neckbeard pissing match.

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Oh shit, that sounds extremely helpful, why did they roast you?

I’ve been using Linux since Ubuntu 8.10 iirc, and I’m still a fucking moron at dealing with Linux so I’m always thankful for people like you.

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I might have been very lucky. I’ve barely seen anything negative than when people post factually incorrect or potentially dangerous/bricking stuff.

Though, I do keep a healthy distance from the Ubuntu and Arch forums.

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5 points

Eh, you’ll get the worse of any userbase if you go to a community specifically for that OS. Go to PC Master race or whatever to see the opposite problem.

I’ve been on Linux exclusively for something like 15 years, but I almost never bring it up. In fact, I don’t even mention my distro of choice unless it’s directly relevant, and if asked I recommend something different (I recommend Mint Debian edition because I’ve heard it’s very user friendly).

I also find many people in communities like this insufferable as well, so I spend my time trying to tone them down a bit with comments like “Linux isn’t for everyone, but it’ll always be there if you decide to give it another try.” I use Linux because it works better for me than Windows, yet many here make it a religion or something. It’s kinda weird.

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