102 points

Why would that ever not be the case?

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The first time I was ever pulled over I asked if I had done something. The cop responded “You’re on an Alberta road, we can pull you over whenever we want!” Then proceeded to check my registration and insurance and let me leave. I was on my way to pick my kids up from school and he even waited until I was in a school zone to pull me over, so when all the other parents drove by they thought I was speeding in a school zone.

ACAB is why it would ever not be the case.

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It’s pretty common for cops to open with “do you know why I stopped you?” to give you an opportunity to incriminate yourself.

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“do you know why I stopped you?”

Well officer since I’m not black, don’t have a large amount of hard currency, drugs, weapons or food with me I am bereft of any reason beyond you are bored or you wish to coerce sexual favors from me under threat of physical harm and detainment.

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And that, kids, is the story of how I got fucking shot.

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30 points

In case anyone needs a reminder:

I decline to answer any questions without legal counsel.

I do not consent to any search.

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Or you could choose to not immediately have a hostile and confrontational attitude.

“No” is also a valid answer to “do you know why I stopped you?”

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23 points

nowadays that’s just implied consent to a beat-down.

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1 point

And add “Am I being detained?” and “Am I free to leave?”

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41 points

Just don’t answer. In most states you have an obligation to show license and registration. That’s it. Cops can only ask you to comply with lawful orders.

Now they can still murder you anyways and get away with it so that complicates matters.

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22 points

Being unresponsive can be legally interpreted as being uncooperative. You must actively exercise your right to remain silent.

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You have clearly never been pulled over. This is a great way to get in trouble. You don’t need to tell them a story, but absolute silence is going to get you some self imposed cop trying to over compensate, pulling a gun on you.

People, unless this moron can show you 1 state law backing this up, do not follow their advice. This works on TV dramas, not real life.

Turn your phone camera on, start recording, place it where it can’t be seen, just answer short replies, yes and no answers. Be polite. No stories, do not admit to anything you think you did (or that you did). Some say don’t argue, but my personal favorite is telling the cop “I disagree“ to their accusations since most stops are suspected violations and require you to incriminate yourself. 99% of my traffic stops resulted in warnings, because I wasn’t a dipshit.

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4 points

Being white helps… but just looking confused and dumb seems to be best.

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9 points

Also the, “do you know how fast you were going?”. So curious and child-like about the world.

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Exactly where officer? I am certain I never exceeded the speed limit, but I have time/date stamped recorded gps tracking with dash and rear camera footage correlated on this vehicle, saved local and cloud backed up so I can pull it up for you.

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5 points

“Do you know how fast you were going.”

“Yes”

“…”

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5 points

I decline to answer any questions without legal counsel.

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9 points

The property reply after this new law is, “I think that’s your job”

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9 points

“do you know why I stopped you?”

Officer if you have to ask me that question why did you stop me?

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23 points

How the fuck is this not already a law

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55 points

I can’t possibly fathom how this isn’t already a federal law. Which is part of the police problem.

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Oh good. We can all look forward to the police enforcing that on themselves.

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And the bodycam footage disappearing when they “forget” to identify the reason for stopping citizens from freely moving.

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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