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noted on this site in comments, but the EA forums have so much material.

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EA works on the hypothesis that in order to assist the most people, they have to amass as much money as possible in order to create mega altruistic ™ projects which will assist done nebulous future generations of trillions, whilst ignoring the fact that helping everybody right now will be a greater benefit by increasing the likelihood that there will be people in the future to assist.

TLDR; Ultra-rich idiots trying to justify their greed by saying it’s for the benefit of humanity.

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Of course EA eventually hit eugenics, both rely on the idea that they have sufficient foresight and that no amount of evil now is immoral when compared to future gains as a result of it.

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eventually

pretty sure it was a journey of a few millimetres

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Imagine unironically using IQ as a measure of intelligence in a study

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with numbers from RICHARD FUCKING LYNN

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I confess that I had to google the guy. Richard Lynn was a self described scientific racist. I mean, what in the actual fuck.

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From the top comment:

Yeah, I really wouldn’t trust how that book [by Richard Lynn] picks its data. As stated in “A systematic literature review of the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans”:

For instance, Lynn and Vanhanen (2006) accorded a national IQ of 69 to Nigeria on the basis of three samples (Fahrmeier, 1975; Ferron, 1965; Wober, 1969), but they did not consider other relevant published studies that indicated that average IQ in Nigeria is considerably higher than 70 (Maqsud, 1980a, b; Nenty & Dinero, 1981; Okunrotifa, 1976). As Lynn rightly remarked during the 2006 conference of the International Society for Intelligence Research (ISIR), performing a literature review involves making a lot of choices. Nonetheless, an important drawback of Lynn (and Vanhanen)'s reviews of the literature is that they are unsystematic.

They’re not the only one who find Lynn’s choice of data selection suspect. Wikipedia describes him as:

Richard Lynn (20 February 1930 – July 2023) was a controversial English psychologist and self-described “scientific racist” […] He was the editor-in-chief of Mankind Quarterly, which is commonly described as a white supremacist journal.

[From earlier in the comment] I can view an astonishing amount of publications for free through my university, but they haven’t opted to include this one, weird… So should I pay money to see this “Mankind Quarterly” publication?

When I googled it I found that Mankind Quarterly includes among its founders Henry Garrett an American psychologist who testified in favor of segregated schools during Brown versus Board of Education, Corrado Gini who was president of the Italian genetics and eugenics Society in fascist Italy and Otmar Freiherr von Verschuer who was director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of anthropology human heredity and eugenics in Nazi Germany. He was a member of the Nazi Party and the mentor of Josef Mengele, the physician at the Auschwitz concentration camp infamous for performing human experimentation on the prisoners during World War 2. Mengele provided for Verschuer with human remains from Auschwitz to use in his research into eugenics. […] Something tells me it wouldn’t be very EA to give money to these people.

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The case for the importance of IQ for numerous real-world outcomes was made in the controversial book The Bell Curve (1994) by psychologist Richard Herrnstein and political scientist Charles Murray. They cogently argued

No, they didn’t.

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

[Especially don’t debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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