#christmas #unions
“us”? Unions have always had issues with women. UAW once has a strike over hiring them.
Just so everyone knows, this person is either paid or has interest in tearing down unions. Identity politics is used often to stop worker’s action.
Considering how many comments you’ve copy pasted in this thread alone, it feels like you’re a corporate shill.
I’d hope you’d be getting paid for it, otherwise that’s just ew
That’s kinda fair, but only if not looking at context. Unions represent the will/votes of the workers, and in the past women’s rights were culturally looked down on. In the present day equality is a more widespread cultural view so unions now would reflect that, at least in areas that do. So essentially unions are only as good as the current majority ethics of the workers within them.
Forgiveness is only possible once the offending behaviour is stopped. I suspect the Internet has never offered you forgiveness because you’ve never stopped your offending behaviour.
Unions have been gaining class consciousness since their inception. It took a general strike of only white people in New Orleans for unions to realize that they will never succeed unless they accept and fight for black people too. The Wilmar 8 strike was a turning point for unions accepting women. Not to mention that this is probably from the IWW, which has always accepted women.
You gave one item of evidence, I would assume they’re saying it’s not enough to be able to say that about unions (that they have always had issues with women). They addressed what you said and added to it, so neither?
Neither. I’m saying that worker-led organizations are prone to the biases of the workers that make up the organization, but their reliance on class consciousness means that unions never keep their status quo bias for long. The president of the UAW today is a feminist and socialist. The CWA organizers I work with are anti racist and socialists.
One of the first unions that really stuck in the US was the International Ladies’ Garments Workers Union, which started in response to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire.
Yes, some traditionally male lead industries were shitty towards women, but your sweeping generalization is wrong.
This is the claim.
Unions have always had issues with women.
One strike from one union 80 years ago when cultural attitudes were entirely different has no bearing on that claim.
why is this in the lemmyshitposting community?
This is too real to be a “shit post”
Lol … those benefits aren’t gifts that were freely given.
People had to fight, get beaten, lose money, lose houses, lose property and years ago even get killed to even establish those benefits and normalize them today.
I have old elderly friends who took part in union movements in the 40s and 50s, many of whom complained of getting beaten and threatened and a few recalling friends and relatives murdered for organizing successful strike action.
If we had left it to corporations and wealthy elites to give these benefits freely, they would withhold everything and prefer that slavery were reintroduced than to give up anything.
Those aren’t gifts … those are hard fought rights that people literally died for.
Sure, unions are nice, but have you tried constantly ripping each other down in a race to the bottom with the hopes a rich person might notice and give you more wealth than your coworkers?
