it seems clear that there are less POC people on hexbear then there was before. what would you propose, and what do you think the issues are if any. i will be refraining from sharing my opinion for now to encourage more ideas.

white comrades are allowed to post emotes to boost this thread so more people can see it.

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Ban white people starting struggle seshes over where different PoC/nations sit in either class or social hierarchy. Too many posts asking “Is Mexico part of the global south?” or “Is x profession proletariat?” It always reeks of white people pitting marginalized people against each other. I’m not gonna go looking for any of those posts, but I’m sure y’all know what I mean

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agreed, that gets annoying.

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I’ve always found it super cringe when users on here will use the “Inshallah” and “Haram” emotes, or any other thing related to Islam/Arabic. This is especially true of the Arabic writing used in the volcel pledge or whatever. I’m 100% positive these are just white ppl using them in some kind of weird signaling way. Things like “Inshallah” or “Haram” or “Mashallah” aren’t just things you throw around like it’s some sort of insider lingo for lols.

Have any of them ever stepped foot inside a mosque? Or even tried to read the Koran? Or do any kind of research into Islam (besides just the relatively recent “progressive” strains)? Maybe that one time in college they fasted for one day during Ramadan, cool I guess, but how many of them would actually be scared if you dropped them off in the middle of Cairo or any other major middle eastern city? How long before they call the cops cuz they were “afraid?”

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I think you’re just wrong about this. you’re assuming that these words are inherently religious Islamic sayings as opposed to words used in everyday language in Muslim countries. for example, I’m Assyrian-Iranian (Christian) and me, my parents, and my grandparents all say “inshallah” and “mashallah” just because we’re from a predominantly Muslim country. it’s the same for all non-Muslim Middle Easterners. it’s really no different than saying “oh god” or “I hope to god” while being an atheist or Hindu or whatever. the word for god in our language is also “Allah”.

there’s nothing wrong with embracing parts of other cultures, just learn about them first and be respectful

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I think you’re just wrong about this. you’re assuming that these words are inherently religious Islamic sayings as opposed to words used in everyday language in Muslim countries. for example, I’m Assyrian-Iranian (Christian) and me, my parents, and my grandparents all say “inshallah” and “mashallah” just because we’re from a predominantly Muslim country. it’s the same for all non-Muslim Middle Easterners. it’s really no different than saying “oh god” or “I hope to god” while being an atheist or Hindu or whatever. the word for god in our language is also “Allah”.

Yeah I know it’s a general arabic word used in those countries, and it makes sense that you and your family use them. But when I hear white Americans who aren’t Muslim (or from the middle east, whatever religion) say it, it’s still weird. I’m sure it would be weird to go around saying “holy fucking Krishna!” or “praise Lord Ram to you.” I know where you’re coming from, but I’m like 1000% sure that most ppl saying it in the west are just signaling. I see it as similar to when Republicans say “Muzzlim” and Democrats say “Musslim” (they are signaling whether they are pro or anti Arab/Islam/etc).

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