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Read the article. They’re paying for bottled water. They have access to regular tap water, but some people are saying the tap water in these very old prisons isn’t fit for drinking.

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Are these prisons private or managed by private companies?

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I don’t think the article specifically says, but most prisons in the U.S. are privately owned. I can only imagine that’s more the case in Texas than it is the nation as a whole.

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That’s insane, fucking water tap water should be free and drinkable everywhere 🤦🏻‍♂️

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You weren’t aware in some states it’s legal to charge the prisoner for their stay? No, that’s not a joke.

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They aren’t really prisoners, they’re slaves really.

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They’re slaves literally, the 13th amendment quite literally bans slavery except in the case of “lawful” confinement.

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What are they going to do if they don’t pay? Evict them?

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It’s when they get out and states legit wonder why they see the same people over and over.

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It’s better than you and me paying for them, as taxpayers. If they’re in prison, the least they can do is work some kind of job to repay their debt to society, especially if they’re in prison for violent crimes.

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You mistake my point, these people lately aren’t the toughened criminals that it effects. It’s people actually trying to change and stay out of jail/prison who catch lifelong debt and a reduced ability to repay that debt thus incentivizing returning to crime.

It’s a stupid fucking idea and their stay there is repaying the debt to society if you want them to make the state money then fucking garnish. People who endorse the prison system either haven’t looked into it or just aren’t willing to see reality.

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Putting people at risk of dehydration and death is obviously very rehabilitative /s

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Corpses have a very low recidivism rate, and lots of people in Texas really do think that way.

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Charges for water?

Do they disclose the cleaning fee after checkout or right in the beginning? What about the convenience fee?

Are Texas prisons run by Ticketmaster?

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Americans have a punishment boner when it comes to the legal system. They don’t want to prevent crime or improve society. They want the bad people to suffer.

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Ted Bundy wished he was being ‘punished’ by this system instead of fried.

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Ah yes. It’s better than being dead. What a low bar…

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Texas prisons are run by someone even worse than Ticketmaster.

They are run by Texas.

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Well, Texas loves private prisons, so many aren’t run by the state. This is another disgusting example of how libertarians get it wrong.

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I’m definitely no libertarian, but I do have one quibble with this - entirely private prisons are actually very little of the prison space in the United States. However, government run prisons do hundreds of millions of dollars in business with private vendors for things like the commissary and healthcare and phones &c., and all those businesses gouge taxpayers and inmates for substandard goods and services, because they’re able to negotiate sweetheart contracts with government bureaucrats who don’t give a shit and get lobbied like crazy (vendor salesperson: “Oh, your annual salary is only what? Ha, I’ve gotten commission checks higher than that! Let me get the tab for our lunch today.”).

So it’s a bit complicated but at the end of the day underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what’s caused all of this, so the solutions to these problems aren’t going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.

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I mean, with how our system works I’d bet this company (Commissary vendor Royal Pacific Tea Company) and TM share some investors at least, but this sort of thing is not unique to Texas prisons or limited to commissary fees.

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Worst, Air bnb

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They say that prisoners have access to tap water, but the prisoners say that tap water is crap.

This could all be solved by, ya know, having potable tap water by fixing some of our shit infrastructure.

Our treatment of prisoners is a disgrace.

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Texans would be so mad at your right now if their power worked and they could get online to read this.

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…and knew how to read.

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Prisoners are being charged for water?

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Yes, because the tap water in their cells often isn’t fit to drink.

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What, how???

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The tap water in many US towns isn’t fit to drink, let alone prisons.

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Probably rusty pipes most of the time.

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how is texas allowed to exist as a state, they are seriously so inhumane and backwards that it’s baffling

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