In a YouTube video, a voice in English announces that China has researched and developed its own ultra-thin 1-nanometer chip – a staggering claim given that the chip isn’t expected in commercial devices for another decade.

“Recent news from China has sent ripples of excitement and astonishment across the globe,” gushes the voice-over on the China Charged YouTube channel. “This revolutionary breakthrough is more than a technological marvel; it is a game-changer that will redefine the global tech landscape.”

“Prepare to have your mind blown,” says another video, this time on the channel Unbelievable Projects. “Welcome to today’s video, in which we’ll discover why America remains behind China in infrastructure development.”

These voices and their “good news” about China are evidence that the Chinese Communist Party and its overseas proxies are using artificial intelligence to flood YouTube with propaganda videos, according to a new report that describes a “coordinated inauthentic influence campaign” on the platform.

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I’d be surprised if it’s just China

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At this point, I assume every major government has the capabilities and the intent to use AI for exactly this purpose.

Oppose at all fronts you can, this is not okay.

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It’s not. Youtube is full of AI-generated content. Mostly conspiracy bullshit targeted at republicans and other right wingers. But it’s only now when China does it, it makes it to the headlines.

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everyone has massive propaganda departments if they can afford it

it’s so so extremely useful for driving political support

the US even has dedicated “Psychological Operations” divisions in the Army

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The specifics of this article aside, I am so not looking forward to the continued proliferation of AI based bullshit on the internet/public discourse/the media/etc. It’s gonna get so so much worse, we’re just scratching the surface right now. The validity of any photo or video will be destroyed and nothing will be trustworthy anymore. This is great news for fascists who thrive in a world where the truth is unknowable and meaningless.

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It’s just sort of kind of like a slightly more advanced form of spam, or trolling, or really fucked up propaganda/news. The integrity of the ideas and the evidence itself is more what should be evaluated in an argument anyways, rather than the source, and I don’t think like, evidence, generally, like, evidence in general, proof of things in general, is going anywhere anytime soon. I don’t think AI is advanced enough to break encrypted p2p communication, so I don’t really think there’s much of a chance that shit just gets totally wiped off the internet and you start seeing like mass memory hole type shit. It’s more likely that you end up seeing mass disinformation campaigns. You know, like what we’ve had since forever, where you get the population to do it to themselves.

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The specifics of US propaganda aside…

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> The videos are part of at least 30 channels identified by researchers as being part of the “Shadow Play” network promoting pro-China and anti-U.S. narratives, according to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

> according to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute

> Australian

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I’m shocked.

They’ve also infiltrated the administration of lemmy.ml and specifically c/worldnews.

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Administration? Lemmy was built by a guy that denies tiananmen square massacre.

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Before you get downvoted by the tankies, note for historical accuracy (so that I will be downvoted because they like that even less, OTOH lemmygrad doesn’t even see me so w/e): The massacres were in side streets, not on the square itself. The party was at first split as to how to deal with the protests, the students were to simplify quite a bit Dengists alarmed by the power shifts within the party away from Dengism following Hu Yaobang’s death. Hardline faction was amassing the army outside of Peking, Peking locals went out there and handed them noodles and explanations as to the situation, explaining that the protesters were their sons and daughters, good socialists1, not some bourgeois anti-revolutionary mob. Dengist faction lost out in the internal party struggle, hardliners decided that the army shall march, army marched, Peking locals erected barricades etc. in the streets leading to the square, get massacred, army arrives at square, delivers final ultimatum, students retreat, with no further or at least minimal bloodshed.


1 According to Marxist-Leninist-Maoist type thought. People understanding actual theory understand that Dengists are even more capitalist than Lenin, but MLs never acknowledge that state capitalism is, indeed, capitalism, and Dengists never acknowledge that they’re not even doing state capitalism any more but run of the mill oligarchic capitalism.

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Can someone please explain to me the drama of Lemmy.ml and why everyone seems to be leaving it?

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I don’t know. I just saw a thread there yesterday about “young people are more favorable on China” and inevitably the discussion ended up being largely about the many Chinese atrocities, all of which the mods promptly removed, as well as leaving all the comments claiming that those were all CCP bots coming to…spread anti-Chinese propaganda?

I dunno, don’t take my word for it, head over to worldnews@lemmy.ml and have a look for yourself through the barren comment sections.

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Better yet, look at the modlog.

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Lemmy.ml is run by ML. Marxist-LENINIST. They will not allow almost any critique of any government that falls under that umbrella ever. But will gladly hypocritically criticize any western power for the same thing.

If it was wrong for the US Britain and the west to do it. It’s wrong for China, North Korea today or the Soviet Union in their time to have done it as well. Not a free pass for them to do it. When it comes to anything criticizing their political ideologies you may as well be on something like lemmy.conservative in many ways.

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honestly they just expect more evidence

I think they’re not moderated by Americans so their standard for what’s “acceptable” is less “what’s politically-aligned” but “what’s backed by the available evidence”

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I mentioned EVs aren’t the savior that people are pitching because they still require plastics and rare earth metals and often are fueled by electricity made with coal/oil.

They got so fucking mad lol

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That has more to do with you regurgitating misinformation, than it does with the Chinese.

Those arguments have been debunked ad nauseam.

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14 points

These are conservative talking points that have been repeatedly dispelled. Where are you getting this info from?

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11 points

Next can you talk about the problem with renewables? Just to come full circle

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Lemmy.ml got mad about EV hate?? I generally see pretty well informed pro urbanism/public transport takes on there so I’m surprised. Maybe I’m just more used to hexbear

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2 points

Weird, as social leaning instance, they should be opposed to modern China! Should we help them?

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Amazing how effective propaganda can be.

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Got banned from there today for suggesting that disappearing prisoners isn’t the status quo in “the west”.

Oddly enough I’ve been downvote-stalked since and I find it hilarious.

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Next week: China develops world’s first 0nm chip!

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-12nm

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22 points

“Your joke, but worse!”

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Culturally there is no real concept of plagiarism or cheating in China. Any shortcut is acceptable, because if you aren’t using it someone else is.

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Everyone plagiarises until they become powerful enough to influence others to stop or face sanctions.

Fake it till you make it. Once you make it, call out others plagiarism.

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Competition comes with copying some of components. All Android OEMs, including Samsung copy each other.

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blame the game, not the player

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