The meme has been liked nearly 9,000 times and shared 2,400 times as of Monday. In reaction to Mr Trump’s repost, journalist Aaron Rupar sarcastically wrote on Twitter: “rubbing my last 2 brain cells together as I try to remember who ran the government on January 6.”

The former president shared the meme despite a House committee that investigated January 6 declaring Mr Trump the “central cause” of the day’s events. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the House panel wrote in its final report.

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The most generous interpretation I can think of is that he was talking about the “deep state”, some sort of hidden conspiracy of government workers working against him… by getting Trump himself to support this massive rally that everyone knew was going to turn violent and getting him to use incendiary language that would get people riled up, then also getting him to delay calling in help for as long as possible and even going so far as to get his Secret Service agents to refuse to drive him back to the rioters after he wanted to go back. Either this deep state is super nefarious and tricky… or Trump is just easily manipulated.

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It’s called projecting. Everything he’s ever said, done, and/or screwed up, he tries to blame others.

His supporters need to wake up and quit drinking the orange juice.

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Damn. 😂

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It’s wild though because I don’t think he’s intending to be disingenuous when he projects. He just thinks this is normal because it’s all he knows.

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Personally I think it’s just the usual incoherent right-wing worldview. Their concept of “the government” somehow doesn’t include the president, the military, or law enforcement.

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It only doesn’t include the president when they have an “®” next to their name. Otherwise, we’re currently living under the brutally totalitarian, yet bumbling and senile, dictatorship of the Biden regime.

edit: goddamnit, lemmy updated it to a circle R registration mark, but you know what I mean.

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You’re correct of course. How could I have forgotten?

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Trump supporters and media have been claiming undercover instigators from the FBI (I suppose the “deep state”) were planted in the crowd to egg them into violence and law-breaking.

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LOL, Jerboa said this post had -2 comments!

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I’m showing -1 on Connect, I presume due to yours.

How funny!

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Indeed haha! We’re in the positive now at least.

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Who is this Jerboa and why does he say this?

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Jerboa is one of the myriad of mobile Lemmy apps.

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Who is Lemmy and why does he have so many appmirers?

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Android-only mobile Lemmy App

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It’s a little more complicated than that.

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I don’t think it is lol. It’s a rally he and his proponents called for, organized, and sought supporters for, specifically to halt the election process. Whether or not it was successful doesn’t matter; I’d still get charged for robbery whether I stole money or not. It was govt supported; it was his rally, the sitting president. To me, the point was for it to be violent and messy, preventing the legal counting of votes, and giving him time to build a legal case for martial law or some other two-ply defense while he called more AGs and state officials to grift for votes to be “found” or valid ballots thrown out.

Is what the meme says supportive of him? No. Is he aware of that? Seemingly no. Is it incorrect? Also no. And that’s the funniest part. It’s literally calling it a riot while the most prominent images are his name on a hat, a flag, etc. Who staged this riot? I wonder…

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Exactly. The time and location of his rally was not incidental.

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These are all good points. By saying it is more complicated, my intention wasn’t to absolve him of responsibility but merely highlight that other government actors influenced the events of that day. Namely, FBI instigators encouraging violence, Capitol Police deaths being falsely attributed to happening during the riots, there not being enough security at the Capitol, Capitol Police waving in protestors, etc. It was his rally and he played an integral part so ultimately I agree with you but I contend it was more complicated than “Trump said violently enter the Capitol” or “other government actors are responsible and not Trump”. In other words, Trump was an irresponsible dumbass but there are definitely other forces who want to make sure Trump will never be president again.

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See, I feel like the lack of security and other questionable actions were more in favor of Trump, allowing the crowd to move more freely and come closer than ever would be possible if they responded as expected. I’m not exactly up on my 1/6 lore recently, but regardless, shit wasn’t handled correctly, regardless of what side you’re on. Motivations get much more murky, which is insane. It just goes to show the state of US politics that were having to deep dive into primary, secondary, tertiary motives.

Not that other major nation politics isn’t the same, it’s just exhausting.

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Please do elaborate.

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Hold your breath long enough for brain damage to set in and the truth will be revealed.

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😂

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By saying it is more complicated, my intent wasn’t to absolve Trump of responsibility but to suggest that other government actors influenced the events of that day. Namely, FBI instigators encouraging violence, Capitol Police deaths being falsely attributed to happening during the riots, there not being enough security at the Capitol, Capitol Police waving in protestors, etc. It was his rally and he played a very integral and important part but I contend it was more complicated than “Trump said violently enter the Capitol” or “other government actors are responsible and not Trump”. In other words, Trump was an irresponsible dumbass but there are definitely other forces who want to make sure Trump will never be president again.

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I don’t think anyone is arguing that it is 100% all Trump’s fault. We know there are countless people under him in our society that aided. Did these people do this to make him look bad? It is very possible in this wide and wackey world. Though, I would conjecture a lot of those who “followed orders” on that day were doing so at the behest of Trump. I have no idea why I cannot see these replies on Connect but I can’t.

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It really isn’t though. Donald Trump took to Twitter and went on camera to quite literally call his base to action. There’s copious recoed of all of his actions throughout. He called for it and they came. There’s really no gray area here.

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What’s your definition of insurrection?

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Haha I was just testing out Lemmy and didn’t honestly expect anyone to respond. But I agree with you.

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From Encyclopedia Britannica:
insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt. An insurrection may facilitate or bring about a revolution, which is a radical change in the form of government or political system of a state, and it may be initiated or provoked by an act of sedition, which is an incitement to revolt or rebellion.

Sounds about right to me, what am I missing?

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It’s super effective

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came to comment this lol

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