A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a landmark poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK fully leaving the EU single market and customs unions.
The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has been of benefit to them or the country.
It’s become undeniable.
My mother was all in on Brexit, she started out fiercely declaring it’s what the country needed.
Then she said it’s going to benefit the country soon, then said it needs some time.
Then she said that everything going wrong was unrelated to Brexit. Then said its not that bad, and the eventual positives will balance out.
That’s the opinion shifting over the years. She now admits it was a mistake, “but how could we have known?!?”…
Tbf, there were multiple scenarios, and most people thought they were going to end up with an EEA arrangement at least.
Of course, anyone who knew anything about the statutes knew it wasn’t going to happen, but there was a lot of wishful thinking going around.
Saying that most Brexit voters thought anything about an EEA arrangement is giving them too much credit imo.
Their thought process was as shallow as “we should be independent, get the foreigners out, save EU membership fees, then everything will be good”, with no thought about the reality of the situation and how it will be achieved.
A lot of them wanted hard Brexit just because negotiating a deal was taking too long, because in their minds it’s as simple as just leaving.
Ask her to get off Facebook and/or check what she sees on the news. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Britons voted for it, now they think it’s completely failed. I don’t know guys, but there some questions that we should just not ask Britons!!?
Personally voted against Brexit, but always believed it should never have even gone to a referendum. We are a parliamentary democracy and parliament should have decided.
I voted against it. I told everyone I knew it would be a shitshow. Countless others called out all of the lies from the leave campaign.
It’s not fun to have been proven right on something like this. 49% of britons did not want brexit and rightly knew how awful it would turn out.
Did prove 51% are either/both racist and stupid
The problem is that it was an advisory vote and it is should have been handled by initially deciding a negotiating position.
Leaving the EU meant a lot of different things and the approximate idea of implementation should have been decided on before leaving.
The problem is that it was an advisory vote
This is sometimes raised, but is misleading. The only reason it was legally advisory is because in the British system of government, the UK cannot bind Parliament; the House of Commons can override anything else.
In the system of government in some countries, the option for a meaningful legal difference between two types of referendum exists.
The British government had been explicit that what the British public voted for would be implemented; this is the closest analog to a binding referendum. Had they simply wanted to request the advice of the public, it would have been announced that they would take the outcome under consideration.
This is not to say that having that referendum was s good idea. It is just to say that the binding/advisory nature is really a property of the British system of government, not to indicate that the intent was to merely take the public’s vote as advice.
The problem is that it was an advisory vote
This is sometimes raised, but is misleading. The only reason it was legally advisory is because in the British system of government, the UK cannot bind Parliament; the House of Commons can override anything else.
In the system of government in some countries, the option for a meaningful legal difference between two types of referendum exists.
The British government had been explicit that what the British public voted for would be implemented; this is the closest analog to a binding referendum. Had they simply wanted to request the advice of the public, it would have been announced that they would take the outcome under consideration.
This is not to say that having that referendum was s good idea. It is just to say that the binding/advisory nature is really a property of the British system of government, not to indicate that the intent was to merely take the public’s vote as advice.
We are a parliamentary democracy and parliament should have decided.
It was decided by the political class, otherwise it wouldn’t have happened. With such a slim margin they could have said “oh well, it’s practically 50-50, it’s wiser to maintain the status quo”.
We are a parliamentary democracy and parliament should have decided.
“How dare those dirty proles be given a choice”
Yup, you’re a real hero with your populism. Look how great that turned out.
People these days treat democracy like a damned religion instead of a system of governance. Turns out though that complex decisions often benefit from expertise instead of letting the lowest common denominator decide.
the lowest common denominator
Wow. Careful, your hat might blow off at those elevated heights you inhabit.
the lowest common denominator
How’s the weather up there in your ivory tower?
Weird take: Brexit continues to show waves of failure year after year. So I don’t think yelling about it or going “I told you so” with a poll is the answer.
The answer is to push the brexit supporters into the ocean.
He’s obviously joking but Remainers like him and me have a right to be fucking angry. My citizenship of the EU has been lost because of xenophobia and stupidity.
I voted remain and I’m not joking: push Brexit voters into the ocean.
It’d increase the country’s average IQ by at least 10 points and significantly reduce the number of racists and grifters in the country.
(Yes I know not everyone who voted for brexit was racist, but all racists voted for brexit)
I wonder. In Australia, Germany, and the bulk of the world prices are crazy, due to greed in the covid times.
Are Brits mistaking this phenomena with Brexit?
In Australia we, for the first ever time, have a highly visible homeless problem for example. Houses are not affordable for future generations. Basics are getting out of reach financially.
If we’d had an “exit” of sorts, would we even know if it was the exit, or the covid greed?
I suspect we’d blame it on the exit.
I wonder. In Australia, Germany, and the bulk of the world prices are crazy, due to greed in the covid times.
The inflation is mostly energy squeeze because of the Ukraine war and the supply issues for Russian oil and gas.
Don’t take my word for it, look at the graphs.
It’s not COVID.
Maybe in DE and UK, but Australia is a major energy producer, compared to our population. That doesn’t hold up for Australia, NZ, etc etc
Oh dear. Sorry I misread “Australia, Germany” as “Austria, Germany”.
Germany, definitely Russian oil. Australia, no clue mate ;)
However the bulk of Australian natural gas is contracted to be shipped overseas (mostly to china), so despite the abundance of the resource it’s mostly not available for local usage. Besides even if it was world market prices will prevail. If you think Clive, Woodside or Gina are going to cut a discount to the aussie public when they can make more shipping it overseas then I have a bridge for sale
It’s a lot easier for politicians and capitalists to blame brexit (a choice made by the people) rather than their own utter cockup of handling covid.
No shit, Sherlock. The rest of the educated world could see the shit-show that would ensue. I guess it’s good they finally caught on.
Reminder of the vocal minority. The number of instances people can say this exact statement to ranges across the world UK with Brexit America with Presidential Election, Russia with the War, China and Japan’s financial situations. It’s not that people caught on, it’s that whoever holds the cards are catching on
