Why do so many evangelical Christians support former President Donald Trump despite his decades of documented ungodly behavior?

An in-depth report from The Economist shows that it has a simple explanation: They believe that God personally appointed him to rule the United States.

In fact, the report cites a survey conducted by Denison University political scientist Paul Djupe that around 30 percent of Americans believe Trump “was anointed by God to become president.”

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30% of POLLED people who answered phones…

Not “of Americans” fuck this click bait shit.

Fuck the op, fuck the news sensationalizing this fucking lunatic shitgibbon

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Howabout fuck you, read the actual cited academic study that I’ve posted links to and come back with an actually valid criticism.

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He would prefer to think it’s just the media reporting that a sizeable percentage of the country not only disagrees with him but would probably smile as the person you’re responding to was jailed or harmed.

Can’t totally blame him. “OMG u fuktard itz tthu mediaz making cheeto poplar!!1!” is much easier to deal with than reckoning with the fact that a) he was elected once, and b) based on current polling, he’s likely to be elected again.

It’s quite literally the same problem of the right, just reversed. The media are the problem, let’s not look at the reality that is quite apparent all around us because it’s scary.

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Well if we are going based on what they said, its likely they havent read the actual source material and/or they have a problem with polling methodology.

Again, I am looking forward to a substantial statistical and or methodological criticism of the polls and studies referenced.

Its always fun watching people who have no idea how statistics or polling or scientific studies work try to criticize such things.

EDIT; Your explanation is possible as well. A lot of people have kneejerk reactions to things that clash with their worldview. See uh, nearly all of the entire history of politics and societies for all of history.

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Rawstory is not the media you want to stake a hill out for. This is sensationalist on its face. And the study actually concluded that ~~~28% of Americans ~~ 21 percent of weekly church going Protestants believed he was anointed to win the 2020 election. That was all. Not that he’s some kind of modern day Moses.

Edited because I found the author talking about the study.

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Or, and this is a radical concept I know, you could read the paywalled book and quote the relevant parts. Then we could decide if we want to purchase said book for ourselves.

Because this isn’t a study. This article is a sensationalized reprint of an Economist article which usually treats books pretty softly. Almost like it’s an advertisement. But I would never accuse such a respectable magazine of doing that. (Lol, I even like the Economist, but it’s a bad habit of theirs)

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It is a study, not a book.

My link works, learn how to internet.

I am not going to waste my entire day explaining to you an unsurprising result of the work of a team of Academic scholars because you demand that me, some person on the internet who does not get paid to do academic research, all of the ins and outs of a specific piece of academic research.

Get over yourself.

Maybe if you contact Cambridge University Press or the author of the Economist article or the Professors who wrote it, and ask politely, they can answer your questions.

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I’m not sure you’re aware of how polling works. It would take many years to contact all 350 million Americans.

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Go read up on the concept of a representative sample.

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Polling has long since left phones behind. Anything that’s pure phones is heavily skewed towards conservatives and older people.

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Read the actual study. And also, like… look around you, if/when you go outside, and actually pay attention. Have you not noticed?

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You guys are looking at this all wrong. 43% of Americans were found to believe that God helped Tim Tebow throw touchdowns link while only 30% believe Trump was chosen. We can thus conclude that Trump has lost a significant portion of Touchdown Jesus evangelicals.

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I’d say the number of people who believe in sky wizards caring about touchdowns is much higher than the number of people who think the sky wizards want the Cheeto in power

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I don’t know about him but I did. And it maths to about 6 percent of all American Adults. (21 percent of weekly church going Protestants).

The article is sensationalist. As usual.

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I find your reasonable and informed comment insulting.

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Yup. I’ve answered one political call, and it was about whether to dredge our local lake to put in more housing (they make it sound nicer than that). I’ve blocked the rest.

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30% of americans are idiots it seems…

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More like %30 of the 50 people they interviewed in some Alabama Walmart parking lot. Polls like this are blatant propagandist horseshit.

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Again, not a single random bullshit poll. These articles from raw story and the economist are based on multiple different polls done in a statistically valid way by well known amd respected pollsters, and a comprehensive academic study of the matter. Ive linked the main study elsewhere in this thread.

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No they aren’t. They specifically reference the one professor and the one work. It’s a book advertisement dressed up as an article.

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I know I’m going to step in it by commenting, but the polls are usually accurate. It’s how they’re reported that’s not. The data from polls themselves often say how limited in scope they are, but that doesn’t make a good headline and never makes it into the story. It takes a real nerd to be interested in stats and real stats are boring.

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Oh yeah, from the study author in 2019 when the poll ran.

We put a survey into the field in May of 2019 that assessed the opinions of just over 1,000 Protestant Christians. We asked two questions regarding the anointing of presidents by God.

The first asked if all presidents are anointed by God, while the second asked if Donald Trump was specifically anointed by God to win the 2016 election. In our sample, just 21.4% believed Donald Trump was specifically anointed by God to be president, but that figure increases among groups who believe in modern day prophets and a God who is active in the daily affairs of the world.

Slightly more white evangelicals (29%) agreed that Trump was anointed by God, but among white Pentecostals, like Paula White, that figure shot up to 53%.

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The actual study is far more reasonable. The reporters ran away with it, as usual.

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Hey, that’s an improvement! That’s down from the typical “a majority of Americans”.

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Tbh, most things that cite “a majority of americans” tend to actually be talking about a vocal minority of Americans.

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Never believe in a survey you haven’t forged yourself.

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Never do your own 10 minutes of research to discover this is the result of an in depth academic study by scholars and instead equip cognitive dissonance armor for +2 snark, - 1 INT, and the ability to off hand disregard as a forgery any information that doesn’t fit your worldview!

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despite his decades of documented ungodly behavior

Because they also have decades of documented “ungodly behavior” (dumb phrase given god is a complete asshole) and want someone in charge that will let them continue it. Why do people insist on equating “christian” with “good”? If you saw some dude with “Good Guy” tattooed on his forehead, would you trust them? That’s exactly what the cross has symbolized since it’s inception.

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“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”

― Steven Weinberg

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I’m guessing that goes in reverse too, no? Provided “fame” is a religion too, because rich people love seeing their names in the news and hence give a lot to charity.

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